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    swaying for boy - advice for male input

    Hello Babydoctor.
    First i have to say it is wonderful you are here to help the women on genderdreaming and I love what I have read about you. I am 39yrs old with 3 daughters (2 from previous husband). I have two failed IVF/PGD for gender selctn (no transfers, low responder etc). I am now trying for my 4th and last baby and am doing my best to follow the blue advice here with diet, drinks etc. Please can you offer any advice for my husband to possible 'up' his numbers of xy sperm or any other advice for trying to concieve a blue bundle. Thank you so much.
    3 beautiful daughters.
    !st cycle microdose lupron flare . No transfer
    2nd cycle antagonist. 450 gonal f,4x menopur, saizen, cetrotide NT again
    Swayed in early 2012 and thank you god my baby boy came to me
    Thank you GD

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    Dear fourblessings, thank you for your kind words and your welcome. I will help you as much as I can, just ask anything.

    I will be posting my observations on xy & xx sperm ratios and my manipulation of the sperm. (obviously I like playing with sperm in my job, my poor husband is also sick of being the guinea pig) I just need to compile the data properly, typical Dr I like all my stats in order lol...

    In the meantime, I am sorry that you were a poor responder with IVF/PGD, IVF can be very frustrating, but what is more frustrating to me is the wrong protocols they sometimes use, that inevitably will not work, if you have eggs and sperm it can work!. Would you mind me asking if you would do the IVF/PGD route again and why there was no transfer/low response? Any issues etc. with your partner's sperm?

    I ask the above to assist me to help you (I hope you do not mind).

    Okay, we need to get you this boy for you naturally and still maintain optimum fertility for you.

    Firstly, what are you doing at the moment to try and sway? If you could give me a brief run down and the IVF. We can go from there.

    Hugs Dr H x

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    Wow, thanks. I totally respect how you want to present your findings in the way that your happy with. And boy, I cant wait!!
    OK my pretesting was poor and was done when my baby was 3 months old. fsh ws 14.7 and AMH was 0.0 ugh! I did fsh again after stopping breastfeeding and it was 6.2 and then 13.7 after clomid challenge. First protocol was microdose flare 20 units lupron morn and night and 4 vials menopur and 450 gonal f. i only ever had 2 follies on each side, retrieved 4 eggs, fert only 1 and it was a girl. So no transfer. Looking back I should NOT have flown to HRC and should have cancelled but was uninformed , ignorant etc. 2nd IVF protocol was antagonist with only 12 days on BCP leading up to 4 vials menopur, 450 gonal f and saizen (cant remember dose but standard dose) then cetrotide once follies were at appropriate size. I had a non estrogen producing cyst on left side right from the first scan so I think I only got 2 or 3 from that side and then maybe 5 from the other (right). Retrieved 9 eggs, 8 fertilized and did 2 probe. I think I only had 1 definite boy (only 8 cell), 3 undetermined and 4 girls, one of which was a hatching blast. So again no transfer. I did respond a lot better with this protocol but the gender didnt roll my way. We cant afford to go again, i feel like it would start impacting on choices for my girls.
    I am trying to eat lots of meat, more fat, more protein and more nutrients in general. Lots of bananas, fruit and veg juice combos with high potassium, lemon water (sometimes). Trying to eat more salt too. Ive cut back on cardio exercise (I run) and doing more weights, low impact at home. My husband is kind of eating the same as me but not the juices etc. He does not exercise. To be honest i feel like i can never concieve a boy, ive kind of lost hope but am just doing this attempt so i dont have any regrets. I will love another baby girl of course but if i had the magic wand i would choose blue!
    Thank you so much again X
    3 beautiful daughters.
    !st cycle microdose lupron flare . No transfer
    2nd cycle antagonist. 450 gonal f,4x menopur, saizen, cetrotide NT again
    Swayed in early 2012 and thank you god my baby boy came to me
    Thank you GD

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    Hi, I am so sorry it has taken me a day to reply have a terrible dose of some stomach bug

    Thank you for the information, from what I can gleam from your IVF and your pre- testing the levels of FSH were higher than we like to see and your AMH result was obviously not great, BUT this was pre-testing was done when you had only had a baby prior (3 months and Breastfeeding). This will definitely skew the results!!! Overall the second protocol was an improvement and it was unfortunate their was a Cyst I know you do not want to try IVF/PGD again and the heartache when you travelled so far I can only imagine but at least you can say you tried. I will not go into changing protocols ext. for IVF as I know you do not want to go down this track again, but it has given me an indication of your situation.

    The first thing that I believe we need to consider is your increasing your fertility and I say with great hesitance I have observed slightly more women conceiving boys when taking DHEA and it good for fertility for most women. I am a big fan of DHEA and have seen some excellent results on some women (expect must not be taken by women with PCOS!!!!) which from what I can gleam PCOS is not a problem for you. I would advise you to take 50mg per day. Also, for fertility, Pre-seed is excellent as we get older our mucous viscosity and quality is not as great in simple term and the sperm appear to love this to find their way. Again with hesitance I have also noted that more slightly more boys are conceived with Pre-seed. Now Royal Jelly in TCM we love it for fertility but if you are allergic to bees or have Asthma this is can be fatal. So be cautious, again through my studies in TCM a slightly more boys are conceived. The other things for you is Folinic Acid (this is a better form of Folic Acid) and ALA, DHA, CQ10, vitamin E and Seaweed chews are good for you. The other thing is Reversatol it is a great Anti-Oxidant. A cup Red Clover Tea LOL.. is great for you as well. Now for your partner this is where we can make some step changes. Partner to take Zinc and more Zinc, Folicinic Acid, CQ10, Pycnogenol, Testofen and I just love Korean (PANAX) and Siberian Ginseng!!!!! It helps with making little boys.

    I will answer more but must run to work..... Just before I go stop the high Salt intake this will cause High Blood Pressure and potential Heart issues!! Bug Hugs Dr H

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    Just a quick question doc! Would the above be good general advice for all blue swayers?

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    And one more quick thing, what dosages would you recommend for each thing?? Many thanks

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    I tend to look at everything on an individual basis, but as general the above recommendations would apply.

    I will put all the dosages etc. in the next post.

    The other thing I totally forgot as I am still not feeling so good is you want your partner to ejaculate often.

    The other thing if people are interested, I can discuss some methods of safe and simple Artificial Insemination with trying to change the conditions of sperm directly, but I really want to stress the only thing that is 99.9% EFFECTIVE is PGD/IVF. I do want to get people's hope up too much. But in saying that we can only try our best .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoctor View Post
    Hi, I am so sorry it has taken me a day to reply have a terrible dose of some stomach bug

    Thank you for the information, from what I can gleam from your IVF and your pre- testing the levels of FSH were higher than we like to see and your AMH result was obviously not great, BUT this was pre-testing was done when you had only had a baby prior (3 months and Breastfeeding). This will definitely skew the results!!! Overall the second protocol was an improvement and it was unfortunate their was a Cyst I know you do not want to try IVF/PGD again and the heartache when you travelled so far I can only imagine but at least you can say you tried. I will not go into changing protocols ext. for IVF as I know you do not want to go down this track again, but it has given me an indication of your situation.

    The first thing that I believe we need to consider is your increasing your fertility and I say with great hesitance I have observed slightly more women conceiving boys when taking DHEA and it good for fertility for most women. I am a big fan of DHEA and have seen some excellent results on some women (expect must not be taken by women with PCOS!!!!) which from what I can gleam PCOS is not a problem for you. I would advise you to take 50mg per day. Also, for fertility, Pre-seed is excellent as we get older our mucous viscosity and quality is not as great in simple term and the sperm appear to love this to find their way. Again with hesitance I have also noted that more slightly more boys are conceived with Pre-seed. Now Royal Jelly in TCM we love it for fertility but if you are allergic to bees or have Asthma this is can be fatal. So be cautious, again through my studies in TCM a slightly more boys are conceived. The other things for you is Folinic Acid (this is a better form of Folic Acid) and ALA, DHA, CQ10, vitamin E and Seaweed chews are good for you. The other thing is Reversatol it is a great Anti-Oxidant. A cup Red Clover Tea LOL.. is great for you as well. Now for your partner this is where we can make some step changes. Partner to take Zinc and more Zinc, Folicinic Acid, CQ10, Pycnogenol, Testofen and I just love Korean (PANAX) and Siberian Ginseng!!!!! It helps with making little boys.

    I will answer more but must run to work..... Just before I go stop the high Salt intake this will cause High Blood Pressure and potential Heart issues!! Bug Hugs Dr H
    Another thing that is critical is for your partner to ejaculate often ....I am happy if you would like to prescribe the exact dosages or talk about AI x I hope I have helped.

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    This is such fantastic information, a million thank yous!! I hope your feeling a bit better, stomach bugs are the worst. Ok I have written down all of these supps and will get to it. I dont think we can get proper DHEA in NZ but will start searching online etc. And yes just read the part about ejaculation being often. Im guessing not too often but would every second day be about right. I am very interested to learn the ideas about safe insemination and I would definitely give this a go. Again, thank you for your precious time X
    3 beautiful daughters.
    !st cycle microdose lupron flare . No transfer
    2nd cycle antagonist. 450 gonal f,4x menopur, saizen, cetrotide NT again
    Swayed in early 2012 and thank you god my baby boy came to me
    Thank you GD

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