will this work? girl sway

[queen-of-harts]

You have to be a dream member to have access to the low everything diet. Licorice root is good for dh only and has been shown to cause MC do not take it.Its also not even good for your girl swaying hormones,take Saw palmetto to lower your T if you can.

[zanacal]

Question about using RepHresh.... when using it- after our attempt, should I jump and dump or let the sperm swim on up?

Question about timing.... is Shettles/cut off a bad idea because it sways blue or is it a bad idea because it sways not getting pregnant?

This might affect our plan.... with each of our three pregnancies, it was a one-hit-wonder. So I'm not super concerned about fertility/timeline. I figure it will happen fast enough.

Here's my plan as of right now (after reading all day and I still have more to read- I haven't gotten to read the Vitex thread yet)....

Release each morning
DTD each night (always unprotected?)
RepHresh every three days & 12 hours before our cut-off attempt
antihistamines day before or day of cut-off attempt
possibly use VCF during cut-off attempt (just for the 1st month of TTC)
cut-off on day ????

Does this plan seem like it would work? Should we wait till next month and work on diet and supps in the meantime?

Atomic isn't able to get online until the weekend due to family commitments and some of your questions I'm not sure about - in particular about diet and weight loss, because keeping blood sugars low and having lower nutrients are pretty key to a girl sway imo. I'm sure Atomic will have some advice for you on this point though and will also be happy to email you the LE diet as she suggested. The aim of the LE diet is to limit calories/fat/protein/sodium/nutrients to convince your body that 'times are hard' and that a girl baby would be a good bet (boys need more resources and are more vulnerable), to keep blood sugar levels low and to lower testosterone (with the low protein).

OK, the other questions;

Rephresh - it's up to you whether you JAD or not. For some, doing all the other girl sway things and doing a JAD too is too much - there's a fine balance between lowering fertility enough to sway girl and getting pregnant at all. I used Rephresh 48 hours before our attempt and I did a JAD. It's something you could use at the beginning but drop if you're not getting pregnant.

Timing - Shettles' theory about boy and girl sperm (that girl sperm live longer and are slower and that boy sperm are faster but die quickly) has been disproven. The reason a cut-off might not be a good idea for a girl sway is that you may not get pregnant because of all the other things we're doing to lower the chance of a BFP. My opinion is that it doesn't matter, so why get worked up trying to figure it out (which could raise your testosterone and inadvertently sway blue!) when you could be concentrating on the things which have more evidence to support them. Likewise with O+12.

The idea of DH taking Licorice Root is to lower his testosterone. You may wish to look at taking Saw Palmetto and/or Vitex to alter your hormones.

Regarding the Frequent Release, have a look at the link Atomic posted and in particular the 'compressed frequent release' where you do it lots over just a couple of days but only actually use the sperm on the last attempt (you use a condom or release without DTD the other times). Abstinence is another option some people choose, where you don't DTD at all for 7-10 days before your attempt. I think you have to choose what you feel would work best for your own circumstances. Remember you don't have to actually DTD (if you're sore!) and that it's up to you whether you BD every day without a condom (which would increase your chances of pregnancy but may sway slightly less because it increases 'your' sperm count) or you use the condom until your attempt (or however many attempts you decide to have) around the crucial time.

I would take the antihistimine whenever you notice you have EWCM.

I feel like the VCF might be a bit too much - I know somebody on here was trying to have a little accident by not using her spermicide correctly and it never happened and if you're doing other things to sway too ... though of course feel free to try!

I personally would do the LE diet and take Saw Palmetto and/or Vitex (if you choose to do so) for at least a cycle before your attempt - 6 weeks to 3 months is the timeframe most people work to.

Has there been mention of low dosage aspirin yet? That's something else you can add to make your body more acidic.

HTH

[squamgirl]

zanacal- thank you ever so much for your reply. I appreciate your help.

Diet- I've been trying to eat as little as possible (esp protein) while still keeping myself healthy. If you could PM the diet to me, that would be fantastic! Thank you!

I'm going to read over your suggestions with DH tonight and see how he feels about putting the brakes on TTC for one month. I kind of want to- to make sure I've got everything ready. But I'm not sure. Heavens, it's taken us six years to work up the courage to do this again. Do we want to delay it further? LOL! But I guess if we get ourselves fully ready, we can just hit it hard next month and hope it happens quickly

Thank you again for all your help!

[squamgirl]

Do Vitex and Saw Palmetto need to be used together? Reading about Vitex- I don't feel good using it. I need to learn more about Saw Palmetto now.

[zanacal]

No, they don't need to be used together - but, of the two, more is known about the safety of Vitex I believe. Of course, you don't need to do anything you're not comfortable with!

[dannikins]

so if we were to do Abstinence 7-10 days, then dtd twice in one day, only using the second deposit, would that be effective enough?,

i think something like that we could manage without any stress.

and thanks for your help..

[squamgirl]

So, DH and I talked and we're going to keep plugging forward this month. We'll be very conservative about it- not take any risks. And then I guess we'll see what happens.

Since I haven't been on the diet- would a sort of crash diet until I get either a BFP or AF help? I've already lost four lbs in the last week or two. Maybe I could do a little more (although that does scare me as I'm starting to feel the effects and I really should be getting myself strong for pregnancy, not the other way around). Thoughts?

[zanacal]

so if we were to do Abstinence 7-10 days, then dtd twice in one day, only using the second deposit, would that be effective enough?,

i think something like that we could manage without any stress.

and thanks for your help..

Yes, that would be good, although abstinence is not generally a good idea if you're older parents because it can affect sperm quality.

[zanacal]

So, DH and I talked and we're going to keep plugging forward this month. We'll be very conservative about it- not take any risks. And then I guess we'll see what happens.

Since I haven't been on the diet- would a sort of crash diet until I get either a BFP or AF help? I've already lost four lbs in the last week or two. Maybe I could do a little more (although that does scare me as I'm starting to feel the effects and I really should be getting myself strong for pregnancy, not the other way around). Thoughts?

Good luck! The diet won't have had time to help with lowering of testosterone but losing weight immediately prior to O is something which may help. The most important time to keep blood sugar levels low is immediately prior to your attempt and in the 2ww.

[dannikins]

zanacal i am 28, hubby is 43.
and congrats too...