will this work? girl sway

[atomic sagebrush]

so if we were to do Abstinence 7-10 days, then dtd twice in one day, only using the second deposit, would that be effective enough?,

i think something like that we could manage without any stress.

and thanks for your help..

Yes, though I do n;t love abstinence for those in their late 30's.

[atomic sagebrush]

So, DH and I talked and we're going to keep plugging forward this month. We'll be very conservative about it- not take any risks. And then I guess we'll see what happens.

Since I haven't been on the diet- would a sort of crash diet until I get either a BFP or AF help? I've already lost four lbs in the last week or two. Maybe I could do a little more (although that does scare me as I'm starting to feel the effects and I really should be getting myself strong for pregnancy, not the other way around). Thoughts?

No, there's no need to do that. I might skip breakfast around O and for a couple of days afterwards, if I were you but losing 4 lbs. is actually ideal.

[atomic sagebrush]

zanacal i am 28, hubby is 43.
and congrats too...

If DH is in his 40's, I would not do abstain and instead I would have him release every 2-4 days throughout cycle for optimal sperm quality, then prob. do the compressed frequent release.

Older men = more birth defects and long term health issues, inc. scary things like autism and schizophrenia. It's a very small increase and unlikely, so please don't panic, I just feel that everyone needs to be aware so they can decide accordingly.

[queen-of-harts]

Queen, I will PM it to any regular members...I just don't want it to be stolen and reposted everywhere like the IG stuff was and I one million percent don't want the people who are charging $1000 or more for "gender swaying" diets to have access to it.

I completely understand you on that Atomic! When you get a chance could you PM it to me? I Will be becoming a DM in the near future as my sway gets closer nut i would love to look it over so i can get food ideas,especially since im going on a big weightlosss journey soon as i promised myself no baby until i lose 50 pounds.I want to lose my weight through diet and exercise but then drop the exercise and go on the LE diet about four months before i ttc.

[squamgirl]

I'm sorry, I am away from home 4 days a week for the last few months so I answer as quick as I can!!

Atomic- thank you so so much for your answers! I feel like I should apologize for being a pest
I'll probably have more questions. I'll go post by post.
Again, thank you so much! You have helped us tons!!!

[squamgirl]

1)Unfortunately, declining maternal condition does seem to sway pink, while improving maternal condition sways blue. Getting yoru body healthy, while I think it's a fantastic idea and the right thing to do in your circumstances, is going to sway blue. That's ok though. By focusing more on what your husband is bringing to the table, you can still have a decent sway. The LE diet is actually quite healthy when not taken to extremes and it's a diet you can stay on in the long term - that was my main purpose in creating the diet, because some of the swaying diets are just not healthy for people.

At first I was really resistant to the idea of dropping weight. But now that I've read the reasoning why (I've read your READ ME FIRST posts, etc... and read and read and read) I should lose weight, I'm on board. I've lost 6+ lbs so far (I had lost 7, but gained one back yesterday ). And I can see that it will be short-term. As soon as I get my BFP, I'm going to get back on my pre-natals and healthy eating.

I'll PM it to you happily but I do hope you'll consider becoming a member to help support the site, because the site's founder has had to pay for a lot of expenses out of pocket and we don't have ads like some of the sites do.

Yes, I want to become a dream member to help support the site. Hopefully soon Goodness, it costs less than a book and is much more helpful!

2)I strongly urge you to stop the licorice root. Western medicine frowns upon licorice root prior to and during pg, it may cause miscarriage and birth defects, and it's also not healthy for you to take in the long term, it will completely mess up your electrolyte levels and cause high blood pressure (proven.) Plus, in terms of swaying, it raises estrogen which may sway blue anyway.

I've been off it for a couple days now, but can feel the pain of the acid reflux. So I need to take a little bit again, but I'm going to wean myself off. The amount I'm taking now is quite minimal. I should be off completely soon

3)You can either do a jump and dump or not, with the RepHresh. It all depends on how big a hurry you're in to get pg. We're flexible around here - no right or wrong way to do it. Personally with your frequent release plan, plus RepHresh and antihistamine, I'd prob. forgo the jump and dump but that's at your discretion.

Thank you for the perspective.

4)Cutoff timing is a bad idea because it is a bunch of work and effort that has the potential to raise testosterone (the sort of obsessive, detail-oriented project that tends to raise testosterone) so you may end up trading something that does not sway in any way (timing) for a bump in testosterone that will sway blue to some extent.

Again, thank you for the perspective.

5)If your husband is capable of that level of release for 7-10 consecutive days, that's great and is an intriguing idea that I had not seen before. In fact, even if he can't do it for the full 7 days I suspect that amount of releasing will still be swaying pink. The only downside is that some people fear that frequent release inside the woman has the potential to raise pH, but the RepHresh should take care of that.

So, we found that we can't maintain that level of releasing and DTD. LOL!
We're currently releasing each evening (not in me...) and when we do our attempt we'll do the real deal.

6)With all the rest of the stuff you're doing, I would not use the VCF. I like spermicide as an option for people who don't WANT to do a lot of other stuff or whose husbands will not cooperate wtih abstaining/frequent release. You certainly don't need to include it if you're already doing a lot of things to sway, but of course that's at your discretion!!

Again, thank you for the perspective.

7)Personally I would wait a month and give vitex at the least a try but then again, it may be a good idea to try with the VCF like you're saying this first month with the understanding that you're prob. not going to get pg this month.

Since we've been going at it (literally!) so hard this month, I think we'll keep going for it. I've been reading up on Vitex and I just don't feel good about it in my gut. I'll do everything else that I can to sway and hope that it's enough. And if I don't get pregnant this month, that gives us a little longer on the diet, supps, etc.



You truly are amazing for all you've done to help so many couples. Thank you!

[atomic sagebrush]

I completely understand you on that Atomic! When you get a chance could you PM it to me? I Will be becoming a DM in the near future as my sway gets closer nut i would love to look it over so i can get food ideas,especially since im going on a big weightlosss journey soon as i promised myself no baby until i lose 50 pounds.I want to lose my weight through diet and exercise but then drop the exercise and go on the LE diet about four months before i ttc.

I will do that, queen (and anyone else who wants it!) The LE diet is actually pretty good for weight loss too (I hope so anyway). I'm trying to make a diet we can stay on indefinitely and that way when we sway, we can feel free to sway as hard as we want for as long as we want without having to worry about going off the diet every 6 months like you have to do with the IGD and fGD.

I also have 60+ pages of cookbook recipes that are going to be posted for Dream Members in the upcoming weeks.

[atomic sagebrush]

1)6 pounds is plenty. You don't need to lose any more, just hold steady right there and then if a couple more come off over the course of time, you won't be wasting away to nothing.

2)Is there anything else that helps the acid reflux?? This may sound stupid but have you tried the papaya? Those really helped my acid reflux.

3)Releasing once a day is perfectly fine too! I was amazed that your DH could keep that pace up!

4)Tons of baby girls have been conceived without vitex! It's always best to go with what feels right to you, first and foremost.

[squamgirl]

OK ladies... I'm stressing this morning. Someone please call me down

Here's what I'm stressing about....

I *think* today might be attempt day. I took an OPK test yesterday. There was a light line (maybe fade-in?), but not the dark line to indicate a surge. I'm on CD 13. In June I O'd on CD 14, same in July. In Aug I O'd on CD 18. My temp dropped drastically this morning (by .6 degrees).

Last night we failed in our attempt to release. I think I've overworked DH. So we had planned to release this morning so tonight we could DTD with low sperm count. Well, I slept in. Big time. Totally missed the opportunity. Crap! So maybe we need to wait another day. Or another month. Maybe we can DTD with a condom right when he gets home and then try do our actual attempt at bedtime. I don't know....

Even though I've been losing weight, it's coming back on. I'm still down 5 1/2 pounds from when I started, but it's coming back on .2 to .4 lbs at a time. Maybe I'm not eating enough and my body is holding on to the weight for dear life?

I've been drier (you know where) this cycle than I have in my entire life! But today I feel a little more wet, even though I don't see much when I go to the bathroom. You know- it just *feels* different inside. I took a zyrtec yesterday. Maybe today I'll take a zyrtec and half a benadryl (benadryl knocks me out within two hours of taking it and then I sleep for ten hours so I'll have to time this carefully tonight).

Trying not to stress (and raise testosterone).

I just keep wondering if I've done enough. I've lost weight, dried up my CM, released DH every day, used RepHresh every three days, DH has taken his supps faithfully (calcium, mag, cran, licorice root), I've taken my supps (calcium, mag, was doing cran and then switched to baby aspirin). I hope it's been enough.

ETA: DH has also worn tighty-whiteys since AF started and he "blasts" the jewels in the shower. This morning when he realized that I was sleeping in and wouldn't be joining him in the shower, he gave them an extra blast.

[squamgirl]

1)6 pounds is plenty. You don't need to lose any more, just hold steady right there and then if a couple more come off over the course of time, you won't be wasting away to nothing.

2)Is there anything else that helps the acid reflux?? This may sound stupid but have you tried the papaya? Those really helped my acid reflux.

3)Releasing once a day is perfectly fine too! I was amazed that your DH could keep that pace up!

4)Tons of baby girls have been conceived without vitex! It's always best to go with what feels right to you, first and foremost.

It looks like you and I were posting at the same time.
I decided this morning to try to stay off the licorice root. I've been taking Malaox for the pain and I'll do that and maybe a very small amount of licorice root if needed. I haven't tried papaya. Apples have helped in the past, so I'll eat more apples

Again, thank you!!!