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    Can you girls shed light on FR Over E4D when ttc girl? And would 2x a day be frequent enough?

    I'm really unhappy with 1 attempt in fertile zone. I'm. Gonna be 40 in 6 weeks and we are going to try in September again. Taking this month to get myself organized!

    How much less successful.is FR over E4D?

    I mean, I've noticed over the years that every year something new is now the favored thing as we fine tune this whole project, does anyone have a clue about what's what re FR and E4D?

    Thanks!
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    They are two different things. FR has been proven to not get good results for girl as there have been quite a few opposites doing that. My guess is that either people find out they got positive opk later than expected, or DH had trouble keeping up BDing 6-7 times in a row. Plus for some people like my DH, he has a great sperm count and actually produces more if not the same during FR! This would sway blue in this case for us!

    E4D is to take the place of using opks. It ensures you have one attempt in your fertile window. You start once AF leaves town and either continue all cycle long in case ovulation is delayed or until you go past the latest cycle day you ever ovulated. E4D has been getting good results, but we don't have as large of a population like we do with those that do at positive opk.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jenc8060 View Post
    Hey girls! Feeling sort of bummed/confused. This is my third cycle on Clomid and we BD twice, at what I thought was O-1 (laid down for 20 mins after BD) and O-3 (J&D). However, I can't confirm if I ever even ovulated as my temps have been ALL over the place this month due to work travel and waking up 3-4 hours earlier than normal. SO annoying.

    I got 3 high days, then 4 peak days?!? Normally it's only 2 of each. I had EWCM throughout all 4 peak days and my last high day which seems bizarre to me. I think I might have ovulated yesterday (but could have been today too?), which is a day (or 2) later than it should have been but who knows. I had to leave for a work trip the day after we had our last attempt so I couldn't even try for another attempt :-/ So frustrated! Last month I got pregnant (chemical) with 1 attempt at positive OPK, which was O-1 (confirmed via temps). So our attempt this month was either O-2 or O-3, which makes me SO nervous being on the Clomid. I really would have preferred O-1!

    I am feeling so discouraged. I've been doing LE and daily exercise for over 7 months and I am just so over it all. With this being my third month on Clomid plus having had a chemical last month I was really hoping this would be our month. I know only time will tell of course but not feeling too positive at the moment.

    I made the mistake of telling DH that I think I ovulated late and he was not happy. The first thing out of his mouth was that we should have had more attempts!! (he's been saying that for months now as he does NOT like this swaying stuff even though we had a chemical on 1 attempt last month!). If we don't get pregnant this round I am going to have to play it very careful next month around what I communicate to him about my ovulation timing as I know he will be insistent at that point that we have more than 2 attempts. UGH.

    Anyway, thanks for reading my vent. I am so thankful that we have one another to talk to as I would otherwise feel so alone in this process!
    Hi jenc8080 hats off to you for doing both the diet and exercise this long. I am in awe!! I understand how bummed you must be feeling but IF you do have o-2 attempt that's apparently better odds than even an o-1. Because your temps cant confirm o has occured you'll be abit the dark this cycle but definately not out even if its o-3 attempt! Maybe start a new thread if this cycle is a bfn and ask Atomic what she would recommend for timing if you've been at it this long. But at the end of the day it has to be what you're comfortable with fx you wont need to and you get a bfp this cycle!
    Quote Originally Posted by jenc8060 View Post
    Hey girls! Feeling sort of bummed/confused. This is my third cycle on Clomid and we BD twice, at what I thought was O-1 (laid down for 20 mins after BD) and O-3 (J&D). However, I can't confirm if I ever even ovulated as my temps have been ALL over the place this month due to work travel and waking up 3-4 hours earlier than normal. SO annoying.

    I got 3 high days, then 4 peak days?!? Normally it's only 2 of each. I had EWCM throughout all 4 peak days and my last high day which seems bizarre to me. I think I might have ovulated yesterday (but could have been today too?), which is a day (or 2) later than it should have been but who knows. I had to leave for a work trip the day after we had our last attempt so I couldn't even try for another attempt :-/ So frustrated! Last month I got pregnant (chemical) with 1 attempt at positive OPK, which was O-1 (confirmed via temps). So our attempt this month was either O-2 or O-3, which makes me SO nervous being on the Clomid. I really would have preferred O-1!

    I am feeling so discouraged. I've been doing LE and daily exercise for over 7 months and I am just so over it all. With this being my third month on Clomid plus having had a chemical last month I was really hoping this would be our month. I know only time will tell of course but not feeling too positive at the moment.

    I made the mistake of telling DH that I think I ovulated late and he was not happy. The first thing out of his mouth was that we should have had more attempts!! (he's been saying that for months now as he does NOT like this swaying stuff even though we had a chemical on 1 attempt last month!). If we don't get pregnant this round I am going to have to play it very careful next month around what I communicate to him about my ovulation timing as I know he will be insistent at that point that we have more than 2 attempts. UGH.

    Anyway, thanks for reading my vent. I am so thankful that we have one another to talk to as I would otherwise feel so alone in this process!

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    just to say I'm still stalking this thread wishing and hoping you all get you bfp's and join us on the march/april/may board! routing for you all xxxxx
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenc8060 View Post
    Hey girls! Feeling sort of bummed/confused. This is my third cycle on Clomid and we BD twice, at what I thought was O-1 (laid down for 20 mins after BD) and O-3 (J&D). However, I can't confirm if I ever even ovulated as my temps have been ALL over the place this month due to work travel and waking up 3-4 hours earlier than normal. SO annoying.

    I got 3 high days, then 4 peak days?!? Normally it's only 2 of each. I had EWCM throughout all 4 peak days and my last high day which seems bizarre to me. I think I might have ovulated yesterday (but could have been today too?), which is a day (or 2) later than it should have been but who knows. I had to leave for a work trip the day after we had our last attempt so I couldn't even try for another attempt :-/ So frustrated! Last month I got pregnant (chemical) with 1 attempt at positive OPK, which was O-1 (confirmed via temps). So our attempt this month was either O-2 or O-3, which makes me SO nervous being on the Clomid. I really would have preferred O-1!

    I am feeling so discouraged. I've been doing LE and daily exercise for over 7 months and I am just so over it all. With this being my third month on Clomid plus having had a chemical last month I was really hoping this would be our month. I know only time will tell of course but not feeling too positive at the moment.

    I made the mistake of telling DH that I think I ovulated late and he was not happy. The first thing out of his mouth was that we should have had more attempts!! (he's been saying that for months now as he does NOT like this swaying stuff even though we had a chemical on 1 attempt last month!). If we don't get pregnant this round I am going to have to play it very careful next month around what I communicate to him about my ovulation timing as I know he will be insistent at that point that we have more than 2 attempts. UGH.

    Anyway, thanks for reading my vent. I am so thankful that we have one another to talk to as I would otherwise feel so alone in this process!
    7 months that is amazing, welldone! Xxforhubby had excellent advise. I just wanted to add that my dh sounds very similar to yours. We have never had a problem conceiving and he thinks we are not having enough sex. I have to be careful about been too upset when af arrives as I worry he is going to pull the plug on attempting at all. So you are not alone, but maybe if you have been on the diet so long and not got pregnant with a sticky bean a separate thread to ask atomic advise might be useful. I think e3d has been getting good results as well so if I had been trying as long as you I would consider adding attempts. If your doing anything like shallow release, tight underwear for dh, j and d or any of those factors that limit conception I would drop those before adding attempts.good luck and keep us posted! X

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    Quote Originally Posted by baby2016baby View Post
    just to say I'm still stalking this thread wishing and hoping you all get you bfp's and join us on the march/april/may board! routing for you all xxxxx
    Thanks, good to have as much support as possible. Am still attempting e3d's even though am pretty sure I ovulated already. Not overly hopeful this month but not overly concerned as baby would have same dd as ds1. How is pregnancy going with you? X

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    Eek! I quit progesterone yesterday due to lack of bfp and my temp climbed again today?!

    Can someone go back and look at my chart pls and tell me if I should start back up for a couple of days until test again?! I can't post a link from my phone so you'd need to go back a couple of days to my prebio is post about this.

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    And even more frustrating, I decided to do my last test in case--a frer digital and IT DIDN'T WORK!!!! I live in a small mountain town. They're $27 here and I've done 4 tests already!

    So...anomaly? Wait another day and see if af comes...which it should since I quit 600 mg of progesterone cold turkey? Or do I go to the dr for a beta? I just don't know!
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    Then the test changed to yes with a clock. I cracked it open, one line only and it was half there and half not (like top of line pink bottom nothing).

    Should I take progesterone in case and go see the dr?
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    Can you get a normal test like a FRER? They are probably better for early testing compared to digitals. I would take the progesterone and get a blood test just incase. Good luck!

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