Atomic frequency and abstaining ttc boy

[Throwaway_panther]

Thank you bre_cooper11 and Pearl327.
So I should baby dance every other day, that should fall around 0-3 or 0-2 etc and then DTD 3 times within 24 hrs, as soon as I get the first positive opk. Is there a reason why atomic doesn't recommend continuing to baby dance after the 24 hrs (on ovulation day) ? Does it sway pink?
Based on my baby dance pattern every other day, would it be okay if I end up DTD on 0-2 and then again the next day on O-1 and again on O day? That wouldn't leave room for 2 days abstain? I wouldn't be able to know when I get my first positive opk only until I'm at O-1

It doesn't sway pink -- or blue. The egg is only out and moving for that long. Any sex after that is unlikely to result in conception.

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[bre_cooper11]

Thank you bre_cooper11 and Pearl327.
So I should baby dance every other day, that should fall around 0-3 or 0-2 etc and then DTD 3 times within 24 hrs, as soon as I get the first positive opk. Is there a reason why atomic doesn't recommend continuing to baby dance after the 24 hrs (on ovulation day) ? Does it sway pink?
Based on my baby dance pattern every other day, would it be okay if I end up DTD on 0-2 and then again the next day on O-1 and again on O day? That wouldn't leave room for 2 days abstain? I wouldn't be able to know when I get my first positive opk only until I'm at O-1

No problem!! I am pretty the idea is that the majority of the sperm should to be waiting on the egg. However, just in case you O late OR don't conceive, you should continue to BD every 2-4 days after suspected O. We BD every 2-4 days (better if it's every 2 days) for sperm health as timing doesn't really sway. The more sperm the better, too... which is why she suggests 3-5 attempts in the micro-window.
Your pattern sounds fine. If you're not okay with it, then try for 0-3 then skip 0-2 and BD at 0-1 (at pos opk) and so forth. However, you want 3-5 attempts in your window. So 0-3, 0-2, 0-1 then 2 atempts on 0, should be fine!

[rachel86]

Thank you! I think that is what im going to do baby dance every other day (which is every 2 days right?) , and continue to baby dance every other day even after the 3 attempts at positive opk just in case I ovulate late. Would I be able to tell if I definitely ovulated? When an opk goes negative, does that mean I already ovulated?

[gojulieogo]

Thank you! I think that is what im going to do baby dance every other day (which is every 2 days right?)

My husband and I have actually been arguing over whether or not "every 2 days" and "every other day" are the same! I thought it meant like Monday, Thursday, Sunday, but he thinks it means Monday, Wednesday, Friday, etc.

Any clarification would be awesome!

[Pbn3]

Every other day is every 2 days at least that's what I've always understood it to be

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[atomic sagebrush]

Abstain is a PINK sway tactic. We need to redo the blue spreadsheet as there are some misleading q's in it (I think the volunteer that did it just used the pink sway questionnaire) DO NOT have DH abstain as long as he can. He should only "let it build up" 2-4 days. (When people say they did abstain, they are NOT intending to mean that they had DH abstain 7-10 days, only 2-4).

What you don't want to do is have either long periods of abstain (like 7-10 days) OR many days of back to back release for many days in a row before your attempt.

Have DH release on his own or with you with a condom, every 2-4 days and then go for the 3 attempts at or around pos OPK.

[atomic sagebrush]

My husband and I have actually been arguing over whether or not "every 2 days" and "every other day" are the same! I thought it meant like Monday, Thursday, Sunday, but he thinks it means Monday, Wednesday, Friday, etc.

Any clarification would be awesome!

This is one of those gray areas where your husband's abilities have to come into play. A LOT of the hubbies we have amongst our blue swayers have a very low sex drive and have a lot of trouble either maintaining an erection. Some of these couples are having sex only once every two weeks, once a month or even longer than that. If they tried to DTD every other day, they would not be able to, and they for sure wouldn't then be able to hit it with the 3 attempts when it was time. So those guys have to be very careful to stretch it out to every 2,3,4 days between BD and please, guys, there is no magic to this (for either pink or blue), it is a tool we use and NOT something that is swaying in and of itself so do the pattern that your husband can manage and stick with.

Now for some of us whose husbands are able to DTD more (and many of our pink swayers are in this boat, we have guys on here who release on their own just for fun every day and then can BD every day besides o.O) we would easily be able to DTD EOD and then still hit it with 3 attempts. BUT just in case, I think the wisest rule is to BD every 2-4 days just somewhere in there, that way you don't end up with too many attempts back to back and he can't get-r-done after pos OPK, and at the same time if something goes wrong (like sick kid in the bed or late night at work) you don't end up with a super long abstain, either.

Again, it's not that some magic pattern of BD sways. It's that these patterns are tools we use to help us be in with max sperm count and max numbers of living sperm when the egg shows up. So use the tool to accomplish that based on what you know about your hubby's drive and your likelihood of BD in a particular pattern.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you! I think that is what im going to do baby dance every other day (which is every 2 days right?) , and continue to baby dance every other day even after the 3 attempts at positive opk just in case I ovulate late. Would I be able to tell if I definitely ovulated? When an opk goes negative, does that mean I already ovulated?

No. If you can't tell by your symptoms (in addition to things like O pains and EWCM which are not that reliable, some people will find things like mood changes, breast pain, and libido to be more telling) then just pick it back up again with the eod or every 2-3 days after you think you Oed.

The rate at which OPK go negative really don't tell you if you've Oed or not. You can still be getting positives after O has occured, and you can also have a negative before you O.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you for the reply Anchor. Are we supposed to use protection on those days before the positive opk? Can you please tell me if the baby dancing every 2-4 days is to keep sperm count high? or is it meant to make the vagina more boy friendly? Or both?

Regular exposure to the hormones in your husband's semen may make you both more fertile (pretty well proven) and also more boy friendly (less proven but still a strong theory). Addionally it may make HIM more blue friendly too by possibly upping sperm count and overall fertility (including T levels) versus doing it his-own-self. SO, I prefer you guys to BD when not fertile as well, BUT some people choose not to do that because they're worried about Shettles. It's up to you to decide. If you are a Shettles believer you'd have him release either on his own or with you, with a non-spermicide condom.

[squigglepink]

My husband and I have actually been arguing over whether or not "every 2 days" and "every other day" are the same! I thought it meant like Monday, Thursday, Sunday, but he thinks it means Monday, Wednesday, Friday, etc.

Any clarification would be awesome!

My 1st son we BD on CD10, CD12, CD16 and CD25 ( i was not using opk's). My 2nd son we BD on CD7, CD10, CD12, CD14, CD18 and CD 25 (Again, No opk's used)