Miracle attempt finished....

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks Atomic,

Which pg did you have the off/on symptoms with? Was it several days off/on?

Keep going to the loo convinced i'm going to see something but so far nothing at all. So strange.

Its been 7 years since i had a successful pg so my recollection is quite hazy....its the miscarriages that burns in my memory....wish I could forget those.

With all three of my pg that I had noticeable sickness with - it would come and go. I'd feel ok for a few days and then bad for a few days. My other two pregnancies, now that I think about it, I also had off and on symptoms with them but it was more things like feeling dizzy and having to pee more. The breast pain I only get at first like the first 6 weeks and then it always went away after that.

That's how I was with my pg at 41/42 every time I went to the bathroom I'd take a deep breath and mentally prepare because I was just so sure it would be that time - IKYKWIM. Even right to the end of the pregnancy. Hang in there - until you hear bad news, no news is good news.

[MrsGoodies]

Hang in there - until you hear bad news, no news is good news.

Well here is my news. Finally have my blood work from the midwife (compare with results from last time in brackets)

16 dpo hcg 490 prog 74.4 (hcg 864 prog 85.9)
18 dpo hcg 979 prog 53.3 (hcg 1793 prog 64.5)
20 dpo hcg 2256 prog 73.9 (hcg 3171 prog 56.8)
27 dpo hcg 9721 prog 48.4 (hcg 8576 prog 46.7 -25 dpo)
32 dpo hcg 19241 prog 44.4 (hcg 10000 prog 46.7)


Good news: hcg continues to rise
Bad news : prog continues to fall NOT GOOD!

I guess I will go for an ultrasound next week. Hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

[atomic sagebrush]

They go up and down!! HCG is what counts!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Concerns Regarding Early Fetal Development You are still in totally normal range.

[MrsGoodies]

Thanks Atomic....

I'm afraid the writing is on the wall.....

Progesterone Levels 1st Trimester


< 5 ng/mL ( 16 nmol/L ) - low level, non-viable pregnancy (100%)
< 10 ng/mL ( 32 nmol/L ) - low level, abnormal pregnancy
< 25 ng/mL ( 80 nmol/L ) - equivocal range
> 25 ng/mL ( 80 nmol/L ) - normal level, viable intrauterine pregnancy (98%)


As you can see mine are in the 'equivocal' range and closer to abnormal range. Same thing happened to Tinksmagic....

[1moregirl]

Oh dear....I don't what to say MrsG, except that I will be crossing everything and praying for you that this pregnancy sticks. Don't give up just yet! Xxoo

[MrsGoodies]

Another interesting/depressing stat:

A progesterone level of less than 15 ng/ml is seen in 81% of ectopics, 93% of abnormal intrauterine pregnancies, and 11% of normal intrauterine pregnancies

Ectopic Pregnancy | Tubal Pregnancy

I hope I am in the miracle 11%.....

[purple]

My progesterone was 1.9 at 16dpo and 2.9 at 18dpo, once I started progesterone it was still only 28 at 23dpo and 27dpo. These are Australian measurements where they like it to be above 30.

Looking at my levels it is hard to believe I am still pregnant so sometimes it can work out despite the odds.

I hope yours works out well too and you have a sticky one in there!

[Babygirlquest]

But how many people even routinely have progesterone checked? Here it's never done as a matter of course, so there could be lots more people who have low progesterone and actually do sustain a pregnancy. I think if I were you I'd stay positive, the hcg going up is a great sign of a healthy pregnancy. Can you book an early private scan for reassurance?

[MrsGoodies]

But how many people even routinely have progesterone checked? Here it's never done as a matter of course, so there could be lots more people who have low progesterone and actually do sustain a pregnancy. I think if I were you I'd stay positive, the hcg going up is a great sign of a healthy pregnancy. Can you book an early private scan for reassurance?

I really do not know why progesterone is not monitored like hcg since it predicted my last 3/4 mc (and possibly #5)

Mc#1 was 15 yrs ago and i didnt even know what a prog level was. I just started bleeding and found out no baby at the ER.

Mc #2 my progesterone levels were sky high (300's) bc i was taking it during a high tech cycle. My hcg # were crap & it took 3 weeks to mc bc of the prog. supplements

Mc#3 i only had my hcg & prog tested once at 16 dpo and it was normal. Hcg 2200's prog 89. It was never tested again until one of my twins died at 8w2. Hcg was 45000 and prog had plunged to 44. They both passed by 10w. Bc they were normal boys, i first thought i had lost them due to low progesterone (it was due to a SCH - probably caused from vomiting 4x per day)

Mc#4 i was on hi alert and insisted on serial hcg/prog monitoring. My first test was normal at 16 dpo hcg 864 prog 85.9. As soon as my prog dipped 2 days later i started on prog suppositories which i continued until 9 wks. It didnt help and the baby had chrom problems.

The PROMISE trial proved taking progesterone does not prevent mc so i never even bothered this time. My levels start high so it is not a Luteal defect problem. My prog drop bc the pregnancy is failing which i know is a high possibility at my age.

I wish i had done some progesterone monitoring with one of my normal births just so I could have a reference, but back then I just peed on a stick had a hcg draw or two and assumed a baby would be born 9 mo later. (Wish i could go back to those carefree days).

I'm going for an us this afternoon 7w6. I feel great and all my symptoms are now AWOL so I'm preparing myself.