Atomic, I'm freaking out...

[atomic sagebrush]

Timing doesn't sway. If you're asking me if that is supposedly Shettles timing for boy, yeah technically (they would say CD 17 would be "bluer"), but it is also IDENTICAL to the point at which I BD before O and got my daughter after getting 3 of 4 boys with cutoffs. I can assure you with every fiber of my being that it is entirely possible to get a girl that day.

Yes, it's possible to O days after a positive OPK.

[atomic sagebrush]

Timing doesn't sway. If you're asking me if that is supposedly Shettles timing for boy, yeah technically (they would say CD 17 would be "bluer"), but it is also IDENTICAL to the point at which I BD before O and got my daughter after getting 3 of 4 boys with cutoffs. I can assure you with every fiber of my being that it is entirely possible to get a girl that day.

Yes, it's possible to O days after a positive OPK.

[maximbella]

Timing doesn't sway. If you're asking me if that is supposedly Shettles timing for boy, yeah technically (they would say CD 17 would be "bluer"), but it is also IDENTICAL to the point at which I BD before O and got my daughter after getting 3 of 4 boys with cutoffs.

Awesome!! So there is hope!

[Birthfree]

@atomic - can BD the day of O result in a girl?

I know you say timing doesn't sway and that it's the one try... my brain is still cramping. I'm sure you have explained this a zillion times but why does the one time vs timing result in different results?
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[atomic sagebrush]

YES, because timing DOES NOT SWAY, it is possible to BD on O Day and get a girl. They have done studies using modern technology to pin down the day of ovulation and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that when they actually pinned down O Day with blood work or ultrasounds, that it's about 50-50 B/G on every day and also proven that the old studies most of them had the wrong day reported as O Day (when experts went back over them) and when that was corrected for, even the old data that supposedly proved timing swayed, actually didn't.

We don't know why one attempt seems to sway. It is just an observation we made when we tracked our results. We can't explain it yet, but that is what we observed, and then once we realized it, we started using it as a sway tactic successfully. Regardless of the day you have your attempt, if there is just one attempt in the fertile window, it sways strongly pink. People who had 3 attempts, even if those three attempts were all O-3, had more boys. Additionally many of our blue opposites were in people who were only able to have one attempt (either by choice or on accident) and the people who did that by choice were DTD ON O Day so again, confirmation you can BD one time on O Day and get a girl.

Number of attempts sways. Timing doesn't. We don't know the reasons, but I do recommend it for those who can.

[Birthfree]

Thank you!!

[maximbella]

Atomic - how many days prior to O is considered one attempt in fertile window? Is it one time in O-3, regardless of day you BD within those days leading to O? Or is it O-5?

Most recent chart, by the way....augh a few more days before I can test!

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[Princess Mom]

Just wanted to give you some comfort, I thought I totally messed up because I ovulated later then usually and totally messed up! I think I did 2 attempts or 3 not sure, but my daughter was born on Thanksgiving, so don't get too worried

[maximbella]

Just wanted to give you some comfort, I thought I totally messed up because I ovulated later then usually and totally messed up! I think I did 2 attempts or 3 not sure, but my daughter was born on Thanksgiving, so don't get too worried

Than you, Princess Mom! Congratulations!! Did you by chance have O-1 timing also?

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic - how many days prior to O is considered one attempt in fertile window? Is it one time in O-3, regardless of day you BD within those days leading to O? Or is it O-5?

Most recent chart, by the way....augh a few more days before I can test!

Unsatisfying answer(s) are a) we don't know and b) it depends.

Yes, for the most part, O-3 thru O day is the functional fertile window. Very, very few of us can get pregnant from BD on O-4,5,6 or whatever and 99.9% of the people who think they got pregnant from BD on those days actually Oed the day that they believe they did.

BUT we don't know if BD on O-4/5/6 has any effect on gender swaying outcomes. Since we don't know why one attempt sways, we don't totally know if BD on O-5 for example could possibly affect things if you had another attempt on O-2 or whatever. We just don't know that. We don't THINK that it does since people are getting good results with every 4 days, but it is just not something we KNOW.

All I can say is that one attempt in O-3 thru O day is what I consider to be one attempt, and at the same time I would not want people to have attempts on O-4,5,6 while adding in one attempt O-3 thru O day because I do not think that's truly one attempt. Do I know this, no, but it is just my gut feeling.