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    Good morning ladies! I had a rough morning and argued with DH... I hate morning arguments.

    Anyway, about pineapples, the meat also has the enzyme so I highly recommend that both the meat and core are ingested

    As far as temping, the reason it can become unreliable for some is because the environment isn't controlled properly. When we take basal body temperature, we have to be adamant that circumstances are as close to the same as they can be every day. This means bedtime is at the same time and wake time is also at the same time, give or take 30 minutes. Use the same blankets and similar clothing. It's basically a study that you are doing on your health so all data has to be consistent in order to get a clear picture.

    Basal body temperature changes as the night progresses and as morning comes, it correlates with your circadian rhythm. The lowest temps will be between midnight and 3AM and the slowly begin to rise thereafter.

    Oral temps are the absolute worst in my experience. You want to take vaginal or rectal for a smooth chart. Your chart as a whole can tell you alot about your health and your overall fertility, but you have to let the patterns build up. If temps are dipping often after Ovulation, there is a good chance of you having low progesterone, add this up with other symptoms and you can gain clarity. If your overall temps are consistently low and less than 97.6 degrees averaged over a minimum of 3 days, it is a red flag that your thyroid is sluggish (yes, even if your doctor tells you that all numbers are fine).

    I actually have my clients take their BBT while I work with them for a period of 12 weeks because it lets me in on alot of info that isn't always obvious.

    @Robin, did you confirm O with a scan?

    AFM, I got my crosshairs today, although my temp dipped. Last night was colder than most so far and even then I got up to turn on the fan lol. We'll see what tomorrow brings. FF marked my O day as CD16, I'll let a few more days pass and decide if I'm gonna adjust it manually because other symptoms don't match up to CD16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmosis View Post
    Good morning ladies! I had a rough morning and argued with DH... I hate morning arguments.

    Anyway, about pineapples, the meat also has the enzyme so I highly recommend that both the meat and core are ingested

    As far as temping, the reason it can become unreliable for some is because the environment isn't controlled properly. When we take basal body temperature, we have to be adamant that circumstances are as close to the same as they can be every day. This means bedtime is at the same time and wake time is also at the same time, give or take 30 minutes. Use the same blankets and similar clothing. It's basically a study that you are doing on your health so all data has to be consistent in order to get a clear picture.

    Basal body temperature changes as the night progresses and as morning comes, it correlates with your circadian rhythm. The lowest temps will be between midnight and 3AM and the slowly begin to rise thereafter.

    Oral temps are the absolute worst in my experience. You want to take vaginal or rectal for a smooth chart. Your chart as a whole can tell you alot about your health and your overall fertility, but you have to let the patterns build up. If temps are dipping often after Ovulation, there is a good chance of you having low progesterone, add this up with other symptoms and you can gain clarity. If your overall temps are consistently low and less than 97.6 degrees averaged over a minimum of 3 days, it is a red flag that your thyroid is sluggish (yes, even if your doctor tells you that all numbers are fine).

    I actually have my clients take their BBT while I work with them for a period of 12 weeks because it lets me in on alot of info that isn't always obvious.

    @Robin, did you confirm O with a scan?

    AFM, I got my crosshairs today, although my temp dipped. Last night was colder than most so far and even then I got up to turn on the fan lol. We'll see what tomorrow brings. FF marked my O day as CD16, I'll let a few more days pass and decide if I'm gonna adjust it manually because other symptoms don't match up to CD16.

    No they told me once that caught my serge it would be up to 36 hrs after that I ovulate. I'm doing progesterone suppositories now which are messy to say the least. I don't think I can do the bbt vaginally this month unfortunately. However I feel confident low progesterone is not my cause to that lower temp thank goodness!
    I'm thinking I am 3 or 4 dpo today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burakoam View Post
    That is a strong O cosmo!! I don't know why you are concerned that your cervix is high.. that's good when you want to O lol.. probably will start to return to normal tonight or tomorrow

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    Cosmo, sorry to hear. I can relate...all this ttc has been emotionally hard on me and in turn on my relationship. I'm sorry! [emoji17]

    Okay wait, ladies...why do you think I'm Oing tonight or tomorrow? I thought you O 12-48 hours after positive opk? Omg I still have so much to learn...


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    @robin, Can you supplement your suppositories with topical cream? I would be concerned of how much you are not absorbing because alot comes out lol. I'm glad you are supplementing though, it gives good peace of mind for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmosis View Post
    @robin, Can you supplement your suppositories with topical cream? I would be concerned of how much you are not absorbing because alot comes out lol. I'm glad you are supplementing though, it gives good peace of mind for sure.
    I wish bc I hate these! No they told me this was the best for absorption 😐

    Maxim.. not sure.. bc I have ovulated around 24+ hrs after positive opk lately. My RE was the one who told me it would be around 36 hrs after confirmation of LH surge via blood work (this was on Sunday). My opk's were positive 15 hrs after that blood work (Monday morning). But FF didn't show ovulation until Tuesday!

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    I found last night's test where I left it last night and look (last test):



    what.is.this? I have not fully dried up either, my CM is lotiony and stretchy, but not like ewcm. I took my test at 8PM last night (CD18) instead of 7 and I left it there because it wasn't darkening. I didn't take the CBD because I wanted to save them to play during the 2ww (LOL!).

    I did not test this morning or afternoon either. I was planning to test every night from this point forth. I'm a complete grump today and have zero sex drive and I got a pimple, so I know progesterone has kicked in. Could this have been leftover LH from my surg? Or is this a long surg and I've been peeing too early? My CBD test the night of CD17 was darker than the rest also and it was a longer hold that usual.

    Oh geez.

    Thoughts?
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    I think you Oed on CD18, cosmosis. It can take a few days for CM to dry up. The important thing is you are seeing less fertile CM. It is also not uncommon to have two days of positive opks. I always get two days worth.

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    Cosmo can you post your chart?


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    Quote Originally Posted by XXforhubby View Post
    I think you Oed on CD18, cosmosis. It can take a few days for CM to dry up. The important thing is you are seeing less fertile CM. It is also not uncommon to have two days of positive opks. I always get two days worth.

    FX and GL to you!!
    CD18 in the early morning? I think the same, like we discussed yesterday. I'm slightly confused because this is the darkest OPK I have and it also happens to be the one I took latest in the evening. I'm wondering if I should have been taking them late all along and if it's possible that I had a long surg. I marked CD15 as +OPK because that was previously my darkest one, which also got darker in the evening.

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    Cosmo can you post your chart?


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