So many questions about my pink sway...

[atomic sagebrush]

You need to do whatever it takes to stop the weight loss. If you can't eat more, then you need to cut back on the exercise.

18.5 is my absolute lowest threshold for swaying. I do not want anyone to drop below that, and if you've lost weight, then you're below my minimum cutoff. No more weight loss. Even if you have to drop diet totally and just become a vegetarian then do that. what is going to happen is that you'll stop ovulating and then won't be able to get pregnant at all.

[atomic sagebrush]

It doesn't matter if it's the greatest sway ever, if you can't get pregnant while doing it. We have to solve the problem before that happens.

Again, another thing I have no way of knowing what is best, so please do what will work best for you.

[atomic sagebrush]

We have had good results with 4-5 days a week too.

You are asking me questions that I have no way of knowing. I just don't know what is better here so please do what is going to work for you.

Yes, exercise can cause or contribute to spotty ovulation or even stopping it altogether. So please cut back at least some part of the day.

[atomic sagebrush]

I do not want anyone ever ever ever to go below BMI 18.5. So I would let the exercise go if I had to if that was the only way to keep weight on.

Vegetarian + exercise has been a good pink sway too. I don't know. I think that some of us find different things easier and that is why I always fall back on "do what works better for YOU". It isn't a cop out answer, it's because I think that settling into a lifestyle for pink swaying is MUCH better than this approach where you have to be forcing yourself into misery every day. Some may prefer to continue exercise, others may prefer to give it up and since I do not know, I urge everyone to do what feels right to them.

yes, the diet, weight loss, and exercise can cause delayed O.

LOL I don't know what I meant when I wrote that either. I meant that you should at least drop some of the days of exercise, back to 4-5 days instead of 6-7. Sorry that was confusing.

[Nemcemger]

Can Vitex lengthen LP and sway pink? It helped me in the past am
40 and had my son last year after about 10mos of try- took vitex for a while which helped with menstural cycle. My LP is 9-10 days. Does any herbal tea or vitex helpful in LE diet? Thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

We have had poor results with vitex for moms over 40. People did not seem to get pregnant for a long time while taking it and then dropped it and got pregnant right away!

I do not recommend vitex for any woman over 35. Plus, our results for pink have been disappointing as well - it's a good 10% or more lower than the overall success rates of the site.

[Nemcemger]

Thank you! I do drink Black tea (little bigger than shot glass) two a day. Will ttc in June, should I stop?

[atomic sagebrush]

I think black tea is somewhat blue friendly, and it is one thing I dropped when I got my girl. 4 boys with tea, dropped it and went to coffee and got my DD

[atomic sagebrush]

How sure are you about when you ovulated and why do you think that?

If you're getting AF, the odds are all but 100% you ovulated.

O Pain patterns do change while swaying, it's not unusual to have many days of O pain anyway. (I always have those!)

Atomic tough love alert:

I really, really, don't like the pattern of your eating at all and I think I've been pretty clear on that. I cannot say from here if you're actually not eating enough (probably) or eating too much sugar (also entirely possible) and which of the two is delaying your O and making your LP short - maybe a combination of the two.

I think you need to normalize your eating. I told you going into this, that this was not a diet I felt good about or could sign off on but that you should keep us posted about how it was going for you. THIS is how it is going - not well. This diet is not working for you and it needs to stop right away IMO. Focusing on fasting overnight and exercise is ignoring the issue which is that you're not eating a healthy enough diet to stay fertile.

Given the results on exercise I think it is a step in the wrong direction to stop exercising in favor of continuing with an eating pattern that is entirely untested. But it's too late now, if you're not ovulating on time and your LP is getting short, we gotta do wahtever it takes to get things back to normal again.

Personally if it was up to me I'd have you stop dieting all together and regroup for a month or two. And then maybe start again with a normal amount of calories EVERY day instead of starving yourself all week long and eating a massive amount of candy on the weekend. If you can't normalize it all the way, then go back to one of the earlier posts in this thread where I told you that you needed to eat more EVERY DAY even if you exceeded the limits with the candy and stuff. YOu need to EAT MORE and it needs to happen EVERY DAY without exception.

Re intermittent fasting, the whole point of LE Diet is to slightly reduce fertility. So yes, part of reducing food intake is to lower our fertility a bit. But because we try to do that while eating a normal cal intake as recommended by the World Health Organization, we are trying to still stay able to conceive while just reducing our fertility a small amount since we believe that to sway pink. That is why I'm so emphatic on the limits, the limits, the limits. It is because it's already the lowest intake we can safely go.

Sooo...I'm not sure if that is in any way helpful to you but I feel like you're asking me to advocate continuing something that I have NEVER thought was a good idea anyway. And I can't do that.

[atomic sagebrush]

This is from a previous post


4)I strongly suggest you eat more during the week if you're losing weight. When you eat a lot at one sitting, what happens is that your body cannot use most of it and you end up excreting a lot of the calories and you don't use them. You need to have more calories coming in during the week to stop weight loss, not at one sitting.

5)Please try to keep in mind that part of the point of the LE Diet is to also be a healthy pre-pregnancy diet. A diet of candy and broccoli is NOT THAT (I am exaggerating, I understand that's not all you're eating). I cannot sign off on any more candy for you. I would very much rather see you add in a small amount more real food during the week even if you need to increase protein and fat intake somewhat.