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[4boysandneedagirl]

In my last sway I was doing pretty much everything that I’ve mentioned in this thread, as well as abstaining. And yes it was one attempt. I did not track ovulation as closely, although I did try before I ovulated. I was also breast-feeding at that time as well.

I was a lot heavier then, and I did eat red meat more often when I tried to sway before. I also had Low PROGESTERONE, not estrogen -with my last sway. I did work out, and I did follow the girl diet. I also lowered my ph, and focused on things that made positive ions.

I wasn’t taking Prenatal’s the last sway.

[4boysandneedagirl]

And to you throwaway-
I do have pretty severe gender disappointment, and depression, so if you know could keep your negative comments to yourself, that would be great.

And yes, progesterone does cause low sex drive.
And if you read the post, it’s not just low drive, it’s that we’re very busy and both just not very sexual people.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey, just happened to read this, it's late for me and I'm technically off work but I did want to mention that we are all trying to help you have a successful sway. (trust me, I have 4 boys including 2 failed sways, one Shettles, one IG, and finally got a girl so please believe me when I say I know where you're coming from.)

NO sway tactic is 100%. In fact most sway tactics seem to go between 55-75% success rate which means there is lots of room for opposites. We think it's best for you guys to do what has worked for most people most of the time instead of doing the opposite, because if you do the opposite on something that was pink friendly for you to start out with, then you'd only make yourself more blue friendly, if that makes sense. For example let's say you were 75% likely to have a girl last time and then just had some bum luck (it happens, if swaying was possible 100% of the time or even close to it the whole human race would have died out a long time ago!) and got a boy, you shouldn't then switch away from what you were doing before, because that would only be lower chances!

I promise first thing tomorrow I'll be back by to explain all this in more detail but just wanted to touch base with you. I understand it's super frustrating but there is always sound reasoning behind the stuff on this site.

[nyc0404]

In my last sway I was doing pretty much everything that I’ve mentioned in this thread, as well as abstaining. And yes it was one attempt. I did not track ovulation as closely, although I did try before I ovulated. I was also breast-feeding at that time as well.

I was a lot heavier then, and I did eat red meat more often when I tried to sway before. I also had Low PROGESTERONE, not estrogen -with my last sway. I did work out, and I did follow the girl diet. I also lowered my ph, and focused on things that made positive ions.

I wasn’t taking Prenatal’s the last sway.

Hang in there girl..don't beat yourself up too much! I could only imagine how you feel. I was pretty bummed when I found out I was having boy #2. Just want to send you some love your way and not to worry you have tons of people here to help support you .. we are all learning!

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[atomic sagebrush]

I just don’t see how that’s the case, the part being that I have 4 boys, and that is my average sex life, very very rarely.

I just don’t know what is best, maybe the opposite of what we’re doing and have done with all 4 boys?

Some people can just "shake off" sway tactics and have boys anyway. Just seems to be how it works. All we can do is do what has worked best for most people, most of the time (for the reasons I explained above).

If you want to try changing it up, you can have your husband release on his own or with you, with a condom, daily for 7-10 days before having one attempt either at positive OPK or 2-3 day cutoff if you'd like. That is fine to do, we've used that as a sway tactic too. My only concern is that when a man doesn't have time for sex, he usually doesn't have time to do daily release either, and trying to make him do it often causes stress in the relationship and drastically lowers odds of conception too.

[atomic sagebrush]

In my last sway I was doing pretty much everything that I’ve mentioned in this thread, as well as abstaining. And yes it was one attempt. I did not track ovulation as closely, although I did try before I ovulated. I was also breast-feeding at that time as well.

I was a lot heavier then, and I did eat red meat more often when I tried to sway before. I also had Low PROGESTERONE, not estrogen -with my last sway. I did work out, and I did follow the girl diet. I also lowered my ph, and focused on things that made positive ions.

I wasn’t taking Prenatal’s the last sway.

I know progesterone is a theory that's out there but we have not found that that one panned out. We had tons of girl moms who always had low progesterone and lots of boy moms who never had it. LE Diet has also caused people to get low progesterone and yet still our sways succeeded. This is one of those theories that never had any real evidence backing it up and when we investigated it ourselves, has not added up.

[4boysandneedagirl]

So caffeine is fine correct?

And what about “warming” dh’s buddies? Is that proven to work too?

[atomic sagebrush]

Coffee has been a good pink sway for us. I'd stay away from tea as it seems to be more blue friendly. It may not be caffeine per se but something in coffee itself (so just drinking diet Coke may not be enough)

It's never been proven to help to warm up the buddies LOL but most people do try it to start with. The issue is that it can really kill off everything, so start off using it if you want to (hot bath, tighty whiteys/jock) and then drop it sooner rather than later.

[Happy Mom]

May I ask what you did in your last sway that resulted in a boy? Always curious to hear these kinds of things because I got two boys thinking the shettles would work but as atomic has mentioned before...there have been a lot of opposites! Did your last sway include diet and one attempt?

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I got my girl by doing O-2 AND O-1... totally broke all the rules.. and still I got my girl. I’m not sure when or how many attempts really sways. Ok maybe it does- it just didn’t seem to affect my sway as I was scared it would.
I did use aci jel at both attempts though, but did not check my ph.. I didn’t want to get too wrapped up in details and get over stressed!


I think cardio for 60 min 6-7 days a week and diet play a bigger role.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Here is how I know number of attempts sways.

In the earliest days of the site no one had ever guessed that number of attempts could possibly sway. So we had people do all the various sway tactics (timing, frequency, pH, etc) all of which cut odds of conception hugely and then when people went 4-6 months without conceiving (which most did) we started adding attempts. This was the lowest success rates of the site. So very disappointing, but the one thing we found during that time is that those who had one attempt had 10-15% higher success rates than those who had 2 attempts and 30% higher success rates than those who had 3. EVEN when these people were doing super strict sways otherwise with all the various sway tactics, their results were still much, much worse

At the same time we noticed that vitex, SP, antihistamine, timing (when done with more than one attempt), pH jellies, frequency patterns were getting about the same rate of success both for those who did them and those who didn't. This means that none of these things are actually even working!! So by adding attempts and relying on these things we were actually causing terrible results.

Once I realized this we immediately changed it to put emphasis on the one attempt and move away from emphasising the other stuff and our success rates went up immediately and have stayed up ever since. I cannot draw any other conclusion than that one attempt sways, two attempts is better than three but worse than one, and three attempts sways strongly blue.

So, even though it is possible to get a girl with 2 attempts or 3, I do still believe strongly that 1 attempt is the way to go at least to start with for most. Totally cool if you want to start off with more, you can still get a girl that way, but I don't think it's going to be the best results for most people.