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    Thank you so much, XXforhubby. I couldn't do past month e4d since my husband was out of town and came back right for one attempt at pos opk. I do have suspicion that I may get pos opk later than the actual surge, on the other hand I got surprizing 28 days cycle past month and pos opk at cd11.
    Could you please clarify, I'm still confused what to do and how to count days of attempts. So in any case, e4d is counted as one attempt during fertile window, not 2, right? And if we add attempt on pos opk, then it is only 2 attempts, not 3, right? So Af ends cd5, if we BD cd6, cd10, cd14, this is e4d, but if we add attempt, let's say on cd11 (most likely day of pos opk), should I continue cd15, or still the same cd14? I guess my worry and question is is it OK to BD two days in a row (or in best case BD every other day 3 times during fertile window) for a girl sway and may I end up with 3 attempts in a fertile window?

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    I wouldn’t do every other day- this sways blue. At most with E4D and another at positive opk, you would have 2 attempts in your fertile window. E4D alone will give you 1 attempt in your fertile window. The spacing goes like this: attempt on Monday, Thursday, Sunday, etc. I would keep this up all cycle long or until at least CD22. If you want the best for pink, then just do E4D. If you want the best odds of conception, then do E4D with another attempt at positive opk. Whichever you choose, keep doing E4D all cycle long or until at least CD22.


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    Oops, I got e4d wrong again; I thought it should be like Monday, Friday, Tuesday, i.e. 4 full days in between. Thanks! So e3d is basically every other day then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunstars View Post
    Oops, I got e4d wrong again; I thought it should be like Monday, Friday, Tuesday, i.e. 4 full days in between. Thanks! So e3d is basically every other day then?
    Yes. Some people opt to BD like you mentioned but most do it the way I’ve outlined for you. Whichever you decide is fine.


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    Yes, same for Femara.

    No more J and D.

    What I'd prob. do is just take a month off of Femara after 3 months and still try since it still sways pink in that month off.

    totally with XX in that you need to keep going with e4d after O. not just one time, repeatedly to be sure. O can come even a week or ten days late on Clomid
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    Ok, thank you XX and Atomic, this cycle I'll do E4D like XX outlined. Once you helped me to decide I feel very confident and not stressed out. Thanks again! Hopefully I won't have to decide next month The problem is that I've lost 22 pounds of previous pregnancies' weight past few months, but now for last few weeks my weight is stable (goes up and down for a pound). I could have lost a few more pounds to become my prepregnancies weight, but it's not happening so far.

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    don't worry, the weight loss has not really been at all predictive of whose sways will succeed and whose won't.
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    Ok, so finally light "bfp" 1-2 days before period. I was on 3rd month of Femara, and 5th cycle of ttc.
    We tried e4d+one attempt this cycle. I believe I got +opk at night of cd12. We BD on cd10, cd13 (in the morning), and cd14 (at night, 36 hours after previous attempt). Hopefully this is not too blue-friendly. I'll wait for a few days, test again and add my sway.
    I have a question, atomic, I was at doctor's today because of severe inflammation of my eyes, she prescribed antibiotic drops for a couple of days (ciprofloxacin), I asked I have a slight chance of being pregnant, she said to push below the corner of the eye, so the drug will mainly stay locally. I used it once, and then tested just in case and it's late to call her, and now it will be weekend, what do you think, should I better stop and wait for Monday, or it can't really cause harm to the fetus? It is around 12 dpo for me. Sorry for asking, but you are such a big storage of knowledge, so I thought I better ask you. Thank you so much!

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    It's a class C so the safety is not known. But honestly, it's eye cream, not that much is going to get absorbed, and the stage of pregnancy you're at, the baby isn't sharing your blood supply anyway.

    I would use it personally BUT I am concerned about your eyes. Have they given you any diagnosis other than "inflammation"? The reason I ask is because all last year I had something going on with my eyes being really dry/inflamed and one of them had a swollen tear duct, and they kept putting me off and gave me antibiotic cream, etc. Well, it turned out I have an autoimmune disease called Sjogren's Syndrome. It's really common among women and they are always misdiagnosing it so if you keep having issues with the inflammation, I'd go back in and ask for a blood test for autoimmune disorders. You can't always be diagnosed by the blood tests so be sure and mention Sjogren's right to them to get them thinking along those lines.
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    I got faint lines few days in a row, and today I started bleeding, so I guess it was a chemical pregnancy.

    I shouldn't take 4 cycles of Femara in a row, right? I had 3 cycles with Femara already. And if I am to take a break, for how long? When I can start taking Femara again?

    I did e4d + one attempt last cycle. I should continue with it, right? Or will it be too difficult to pinpoint surge after m/c, and I better not bother with opks and just go e4d?

    As for eye infection, thanks for information, and I hope you feel better now, once you know the reason. The doctor says it's due to adenovirus and bacterial infection as a consequence of it. I wonder if I had m/c due to the virus too, or it's just a coincidence.
    Thank you again for everything!

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