Newbie, TTC a girl while on Clomid

[atomic sagebrush]

Yeah I think you're right, anovulatory cycle with bleeding (not technically AF, but still acts as hormonal reset.)

Let's do exactly what we discussed, ditch Pregnitude, keep everything else. Most docs really have a limited experience thus far with Pregnitude (I am only just now starting to feel like I "know" Pregnitude LOL) and so I tend to trust my instincts on this vs. the doc. At the least it's something we can change up.

[Star4012]

Yeah I think you're right, anovulatory cycle with bleeding (not technically AF, but still acts as hormonal reset.)

Let's do exactly what we discussed, ditch Pregnitude, keep everything else. Most docs really have a limited experience thus far with Pregnitude (I am only just now starting to feel like I "know" Pregnitude LOL) and so I tend to trust my instincts on this vs. the doc. At the least it's something we can change up.

Thank you, Atomic. I agree. My doc is just an obgyn... not a RE... so I believe we are just experimenting on what they can do... he's not monitoring me on many things that I see other women being monitored with.

I'm on CD5 now, and have taken 2 doses of Clomid 50mg CD3 and CD4 for my 3rd round cd3-7.... My doc told me to just continue taking it as directed even though I had that anovulatory cycle that was literally cut in half of my normal cycle length... would the Clomid that I took for my anovulatory cycle cd3-7 still be built up in my system while adding in more to this cycle? What I mean is am I giving my body an overload of Clomid too fast since I only had 19 days in between rounds? I'm probably looking into it too much but these are the things that cross my mind. Ha!

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[atomic sagebrush]

No it's gone by now, you're fine to take it again. Clomid doesn't build up the way you're really thinking of it.

[Star4012]

No it's gone by now, you're fine to take it again. Clomid doesn't build up the way you're really thinking of it.

Hi Atomic! It's looking like I'm having another anovulatory cycle again this month. I had a followup ultrasound to check up on the cyst they had found during my first cycle back in December.... all of that came out well-- when they first found the cyst it was 3cm and my doc said with the followup ultrasound it looks like it's resolved itself. I stopped taking the metformin about 10 days ago but I didn't mention it to him. He also upped my dosage to 100mg of Clomid and said that days 5-9 Are most successful... what do you think?

The first round on 50mg i Ovulated taking it days 5-9.... the 2nd and 3rd round I took it days 3-7 And had anovulatory cycles. I thought that the only changes I had made between the first round and second round was adding in the metformin and when I switched the days from 5-9 to 3-7. I'll attach my link for fertility friend just to get your opinion on what I should do.

Lastly, he told me that if I don't get pregnant with 3 more cycles of Clomid 100mg, that he'll then refer me to a reproductive endocrinologist... only thing is that my insurance doesn't cover IUI or IVF just prescriptions only. Should I have asked my doc to do more tests on me? I've never had the progesterone test given. I'm on CD20 and had a temp drop over the past couple days--- feeling like AF is coming. Do you think I should order some over the counter Progesterone cream? Can it hurt me ttc or my sway if I take it and don't need it? I don't know much about it, but figured you might know the best thing to do. Just looking for your roundabout opinion... I don't know where else to turn

Other things I'm doing to sway girl:
3 cups of coffee daily (1 caffeinated, 2 decaf)
1600mg of folic acid daily
Skipping breakfast
DTD E4D (72 hour version)

Thank you!

Fertility friend: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/46a231

[Star4012]

Af is def on her way. Brown spotting has started and I'm very crampy. so this will be a 20 day cycle and my last one was a 17 day cycle. Idk what's going on.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Can you tell me more about your diet? ARe you taking fiber? If so, stop taking it.

No OTC progesterone cream. It's not made to sustain a pregnancy, it's made for postmenopausal women and has about 1/10th of the amount of progesterone your body needs to sustain pregnancy. Plus, even prescription strength progesterone cream has been shown to be nothing more than a placebo anyway - the rates of pregnancy are no higher with and without it.

if you haven't ovulated, the issue would not be progesterone anyway. Progesterone rises after ovulation occurs and so prog cream would simply stretch out the cycle while delaying ovulation more. I"m going to look over your charts and see if anythign jumps out at me.

Hey, if it worked on CD 5-9 last time, let's absolutely try that again. That way you'll have time to allow estrogen to rise a bit before hitting it with the Clomid.

[Star4012]

Can you tell me more about your diet? ARe you taking fiber? If so, stop taking it.

No OTC progesterone cream. It's not made to sustain a pregnancy, it's made for postmenopausal women and has about 1/10th of the amount of progesterone your body needs to sustain pregnancy. Plus, even prescription strength progesterone cream has been shown to be nothing more than a placebo anyway - the rates of pregnancy are no higher with and without it.

if you haven't ovulated, the issue would not be progesterone anyway. Progesterone rises after ovulation occurs and so prog cream would simply stretch out the cycle while delaying ovulation more. I"m going to look over your charts and see if anythign jumps out at me.

Hey, if it worked on CD 5-9 last time, let's absolutely try that again. That way you'll have time to allow estrogen to rise a bit before hitting it with the Clomid.

I'm not taking any fiber.

I really am not dieting. I weigh about 113 lbs, I'm tall and skinny. I've been only watching the amt of red meats and the only thing I've been doing differently with my diet is skipping breakfast. I've never struggled with my weight with both gaining or losing. I think I take in a lot of carbs since I'm not really watching it too closely.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Ok. I just have to make sure since I often end up finding out people are eating 500 cals a day.

So, let's be sure you're eating a serving of full fat dairy every day and 4-6 eggs a week and then do the Clomid CD 5-9. It may just be you're not having enough time to make estrogen before we block it with the Clomid.

Oh and I forgot to mention this but I did look over your charts and the two recent ones do look anovulatory to me as well.

[Star4012]

Ok. I just have to make sure since I often end up finding out people are eating 500 cals a day.

So, let's be sure you're eating a serving of full fat dairy every day and 4-6 eggs a week and then do the Clomid CD 5-9. It may just be you're not having enough time to make estrogen before we block it with the Clomid.

Oh and I forgot to mention this but I did look over your charts and the two recent ones do look anovulatory to me as well.

Thank you so much for the suggestions! So I know that I don't take in a lot of dairy as it is. What foods do you suggest as a full serving of full fat dairy? I was born lactose intolerant and so for a while I didn't touch it at all. Over my life I've built up a better tolerance of it. When I had my youngest son in June 2015, I had to go dairy free since he had a dairy protein allergy. I stopped nursing him when we started our ttc journey in July 2016. And went back to my normal eating habits. I still cant tolerate yellow cheese-- for instance, I can't stomach taking a slice of cheese out of the fridge and eating it... but eating fresh pizza out of a hot oven is just fine. I know, weird. Haha. But a full serving will be fine if you can give me some suggestions. For eggs, is scrambled suggested or egg whites? I'm not into the yolk but can eat it scrambled... and I love egg whites. Is there recommendations for both dairy and eggs that sway girl? Thanks in advance!

Emily

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[Star4012]

Also, do you think I should start taking metformin again?

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