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  1. #641
    Quote Originally Posted by mummy2boys View Post
    Thanks girl dreaming. I'm pretty sure it's a chemical, I'm not getting anything on tests now. Just want to start bleeding so I'm out of limbo again.
    How are you?


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    Such a shame mummy, Im sorry

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    Hi ladies. I took a break for a couple of weeks and it looks like I’m gearing up to ovulate soon. I wanted to catch up with the thread and WOW that was a roller coaster. I felt ALL of the emotions and I completely agree with PBN’s anger! (I did giggle out loud when I read that one response)
    Ladies, I am just sick over the confusion you felt this month. I hate every bit of it. Mummy, this is exactly what happened to me a few months ago. Positive tests only to go stark white again. It was maddening. I’m so sorry! Emshe, I was really cheering for you this month. So sorry that it didn’t progress!
    So this is it. I’m 99% sure my husband is done after this month. I’m doing everything I can do, without obsessing and over analyzing. We are currently on the SMEP and just waiting for that pos OPK. I’m trying to relax and allow my body to do what it needs to do. So much easier said than done!


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    Welcome back hannah!! How exciting your so close to the 2ww. I love your plan for relaxing (trying to) and smep. I will have everything crossed that this is your bfp coming [emoji173]

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    Quote Originally Posted by hannahptrussell View Post
    Hi ladies. I took a break for a couple of weeks and it looks like I’m gearing up to ovulate soon. I wanted to catch up with the thread and WOW that was a roller coaster. I felt ALL of the emotions and I completely agree with PBN’s anger! (I did giggle out loud when I read that one response)
    Ladies, I am just sick over the confusion you felt this month. I hate every bit of it. Mummy, this is exactly what happened to me a few months ago. Positive tests only to go stark white again. It was maddening. I’m so sorry! Emshe, I was really cheering for you this month. So sorry that it didn’t progress!
    So this is it. I’m 99% sure my husband is done after this month. I’m doing everything I can do, without obsessing and over analyzing. We are currently on the SMEP and just waiting for that pos OPK. I’m trying to relax and allow my body to do what it needs to do. So much easier said than done!


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    Oh Hannah I truly hope with all I can that this is your month. I know how it feels to think this is your last shot so wishing its a bulls eye for you. Come on BFP!!!

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    Weird my reply to hannah has gone for moderation!? I didnt swear I promise (at least I cant remember swearing but the memory isnt what it used to be ) Hannah - thank you and if it doesnt go through, I am cheering you on and hoping beyond hope that this final shot is the BFP you've dreamed of...

    Ladies talk me through SMEP!?

    Plan of attack after advice from atomic is to start taking clomid on CD5 if pregnancy test is negative, which I am pretty certain it will be. I have been bleeding from Friday which was medium flow, yesterday super heavy and today seems to be slowing a bit. I am normally M, HH, HH, M or L, L. So I think it is a real AF period. Starting clomid later should give my time to start producing estrogen more before blocking it.
    So then I was think E4D 72 hour version from day 6. 6,9,12,15,18. Is that a good plan? So do I not need to use opk, or do you still do it just to get clarification on potential ovulation day?

    And pbn I dont think I thanked you for your support and understanding. It means so much, especially when in reality you have basically no one around you knows about the rollercoaster you're on and have been on for years and the heartache you've felt silently. Thankyou!

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    Emshe thank you and its my pleasure. I love still hanging around in these 2ww threads like a bad smell [emoji6] as I remember how good it felt to have a support network when ttc, having losses etc. I did have a tough time, but I'm happy to say it's now in the past and while it may flare up here and there, it no longer has any control of my life. Time truly does heal, some things just heal quicker than others.

    So onto SMEP. It was designed for older couples (35+) and is also recommended if you've experienced a loss/es. It involves bding eod (every 48 hours) from cd8 through to pos opk. Bd three days in a row starting at pos opk, skip a day and bd the next. It's ideal if you have an average cycle. For those who have longer cycles you may want to start eod a bit more into your cycle or change it to every 72 hours. As an example, if you do the traditional smep and got a pos opk on cd14 your bding would involve this. Bd on cd8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18.

    If you do e4d (72 hour version) then you absolutely don't have to use opks. Yes it may help in determining o day if there's no clear sustained shift but at the end of the day you are guaranteed an attempt that is considered viable so it really just depends on you. The problem with using them doing e4d is getting a pos opk on a non scheduled bd day as it can mess with your head whether to add in an attempt or not which then can add stress about what it would do sway wise.

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    Hey mummy hope you are ok, any sign of AF yet? Emshe I'm sorrry it's not your month hope smep might work for you! How exciting Hannah that's your 2ww is so soon! Good luck & fx for you!
    I'm ok thank you the spotting seems to have stopped so that's good and my husband wants to do a digital test today. My boobs are so sore and I'm really tired other than that I'm good thank you, just very busy working! It all sounds good symptoms but I'm still being very cautious.
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  8. #648
    Quote Originally Posted by Girl Dreaming 55 View Post
    Hey mummy hope you are ok, any sign of AF yet? Emshe I'm sorrry it's not your month hope smep might work for you! How exciting Hannah that's your 2ww is so soon! Good luck & fx for you!
    I'm ok thank you the spotting seems to have stopped so that's good and my husband wants to do a digital test today. My boobs are so sore and I'm really tired other than that I'm good thank you, just very busy working! It all sounds good symptoms but I'm still being very cautious.
    Ooh that’s sounding promising, I hope it is a bfp


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  9. #649
    Quote Originally Posted by Pbn3 View Post
    Emshe thank you and its my pleasure. I love still hanging around in these 2ww threads like a bad smell [emoji6] as I remember how good it felt to have a support network when ttc, having losses etc. I did have a tough time, but I'm happy to say it's now in the past and while it may flare up here and there, it no longer has any control of my life. Time truly does heal, some things just heal quicker than others.

    So onto SMEP. It was designed for older couples (35+) and is also recommended if you've experienced a loss/es. It involves bding eod (every 48 hours) from cd8 through to pos opk. Bd three days in a row starting at pos opk, skip a day and bd the next. It's ideal if you have an average cycle. For those who have longer cycles you may want to start eod a bit more into your cycle or change it to every 72 hours. As an example, if you do the traditional smep and got a pos opk on cd14 your bding would involve this. Bd on cd8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18.

    If you do e4d (72 hour version) then you absolutely don't have to use opks. Yes it may help in determining o day if there's no clear sustained shift but at the end of the day you are guaranteed an attempt that is considered viable so it really just depends on you. The problem with using them doing e4d is getting a pos opk on a non scheduled bd day as it can mess with your head whether to add in an attempt or not which then can add stress about what it would do sway wise.

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    Wow! That’s full on. Especially if you go with the trying not to have a big O thing. [emoji24]

    I think e4d 72 hour is more for me, otherwise I think I’ll question myself over the 1 attempt. What’s the likelihood that my ov day will change greatly with the altered Clomid days. Think it brought it forward 1 day cycle just gone. What would you knowledgeable ladies do?

    I do exercise, Clomid, metformin, fertility diet,
    Hubby does OLE and regular release.
    Shall quiz atomic too!

    Can you have the big O in early days of e4d?


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    Yes absolutely can have the big o. I don't think its considered much of a sway tactic (not having it) anymore... I think e4d is a really good pattern for pink. It's pretty much only ever one attempt and it's not overdoing the bding.

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