Help!! Too short LP and my attempt is coming up :(

[Linni]

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[atomic sagebrush]

When is this chart in relation to when you saw the doctor?

[atomic sagebrush]

Nope the dealbreaker is 7 days or less. 7 days is when the corpus luteum starts to break down and the body will release the secondary estrogen surge to maintain the lining. So if that doesn't happen, the CL will break down at that point and the lining starts to come off.

Looking at your chart I agree that looks ovulatory to me. May I ask how she determined whether you had ovulated or not?? Because your chart is obviously ovulatory!

You need a new doctor. 33 is NOT advanced maternal age and any doctor, in this day and age, who shames any 33 year old woman who wants a baby is not going to be serving you as well as you deserve.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yeah, again, my gyn... she also isn’t into tracking temperature and thinks this is humbug. I told her that I had a temperature shift, and that my LP is very short and what did she say??
No, there isn’t something like a short LP, when a cycle is longer or shorter, then it’s always the phase from AF to O which changes. The LP is always the same length.

Whaaaat??!!

I personally think that she was wrong and I did ovulate because my temperature looks like this (I didn’t measure anymore after CD 26)



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Seriously - you need a new doctor. We do occasionally run across the docs especially in Europe and the UK who "don't believe in" short LP as a problem, but stating that the length of time from ovulation to your period cannot change is simply wrong and is dangerous misinformation. It's true that often when the cycle varies it IS the AF- O period and then there will be a 14 day LP tacked onto that, but a short LP is absolutely a real thing!

I'd really like to know how she determined you didn't ovulate.

[Linni]

When is this chart in relation to when you saw the doctor?

On CD 23 I was at the doctor‘s


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[Linni]

Nope the dealbreaker is 7 days or less. 7 days is when the corpus luteum starts to break down and the body will release the secondary estrogen surge to maintain the lining. So if that doesn't happen, the CL will break down at that point and the lining starts to come off.

Looking at your chart I agree that looks ovulatory to me. May I ask how she determined whether you had ovulated or not?? Because your chart is obviously ovulatory!

You need a new doctor. 33 is NOT advanced maternal age and any doctor, in this day and age, who shames any 33 year old woman who wants a baby is not going to be serving you as well as you deserve.

My new appointment at the end of June is with a new gyn actually! I agree that she doesn’t match with me anymore. When I wanted a second baby I was 32 (I am 34 actually - sorry....my mummy brain lol..) and she was like „Oh...then ttc for 6 months and when it doesn’t work then hurry up and make a new appointment, because at your age we don’t have time to lose!“

She did an U/S and couldn’t see any corpus luteum. And she said that this means I didn’t ovulate because if I had ovulated then a corpus luteum would be visible for a while.


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[Raining]

How long have you been on the diet so far?
For me it’s 11-12 weeks now


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About 9 weeks

[Linni]

Oh, and Atomic - I had about 5 normal cycles with a period postpartum before I started the LE diet, and all have been with a normal LP of 12-13 days (except the 1st cycle after the first period, it also was with 8 days LP. But then it quickly went back to normal).
So it’s clearly the diet which stresses my body. I have a feeling that it wants to tell me „Oh. There‘s bad times coming up, so it’s either lactating OR getting pregnant. Let’s rather safe the born baby than an unborn!“ and it shortened my normal cycle length...

Could this be true?

My BMI went from 21,5 to 20,7, if this is important.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Doctors can miss the corpus luteum. There are women who are several weeks pregnant whose docs can't find the CL (but they ovulated, since they're pregnant!) I'm with you here. I find an error more likely than a normal cycle (while it's possible to have a relatively normal anovulatory cycle, usually it's shorter or longer and not so close to normal range) with a temp rise.

I don't think your body puts that much thought into it...whenever it feels like it can't sustain a pregnancy, too little food, too much exercise, and yes, breastfeeding can definitely play a role, anything that just feels like a strain on your body. But don't overthink it. It doesn't mean you need to give up breastfeeding, it just means you need to eat more! At BMI 21 that is when I want you to hold steady on weight anyway so no more weight loss.

[Linni]

Doctors can miss the corpus luteum. There are women who are several weeks pregnant whose docs can't find the CL (but they ovulated, since they're pregnant!) I'm with you here. I find an error more likely than a normal cycle (while it's possible to have a relatively normal anovulatory cycle, usually it's shorter or longer and not so close to normal range) with a temp rise.

I don't think your body puts that much thought into it...whenever it feels like it can't sustain a pregnancy, too little food, too much exercise, and yes, breastfeeding can definitely play a role, anything that just feels like a strain on your body. But don't overthink it. It doesn't mean you need to give up breastfeeding, it just means you need to eat more! At BMI 21 that is when I want you to hold steady on weight anyway so no more weight loss.

Yes, I’m aware of that and not losing any more weight. I have to eat 2.200+ a day though to maintain my weight. Obviously I‘m a fast burner or my kids help me stay on my feet all day...?!


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