Due in January, February & March 2019

[Babybeaublue]

I'm due 23rd of August. The closer it gets the longer it seems to take. The first 20 weeks went so quickly, but I think I'm just so uncomfortable at the minute the thought of another 11 weeks feels like forever!

[Throwaway_panther]

ABC, I am still so sorry how those around you treated you. Your parents especially -- I can never fathom how selfish and thoughtless people can be, especially to their own kids With this pregnancy, I told my closest few friends, and one literally said, "But yeah, it's temporary, right?" :/

And yeah, you're right about giving baby a good environment (though I worried so much about that with DD since I was literally suicidal when i was pregnant with her -- and she turned out fine, haha!). I think I'm realizing how much of this is protective. It's like I can't LET myself not stress, because if I enjoy any moment and then something bad happens, I'll feel like I jinxed it (as opposed to if something bad happens after feeling stressed, I'll think it was just me knowing what was going to happen? Ugh idk!). I've had a lot of therapy sessions along this line lately, lol.

I did at least find out from our RE that they just put everyone on prednisone for inflammation (mamabird was on it too since we went to the same RE clinic), and said I'd be fine tapering off for a week. I'm still going to go slow, but I feel less dependent on it now knowing they didn't feel it was a thing specific to me!

Of course, now I'm worried all my boy OWTs will have just been from the prednisone, even though I know better than to believe in OWT ( I had plenty of boy ones with DD). I went NUTS earlier obsessing over some vein in the eye OWT I'd never even heard in previous pregnancies?! Ugh, the stress never ends.

When is your scan ABC?! I'm anxious for you to get some reassurance!

And BBB, you're so close!! I hope you feel more comfortable soon!

[kittendreams]

ABC, I am still so sorry how those around you treated you. Your parents especially -- I can never fathom how selfish and thoughtless people can be, especially to their own kids With this pregnancy, I told my closest few friends, and one literally said, "But yeah, it's temporary, right?" :/

And yeah, you're right about giving baby a good environment (though I worried so much about that with DD since I was literally suicidal when i was pregnant with her -- and she turned out fine, haha!). I think I'm realizing how much of this is protective. It's like I can't LET myself not stress, because if I enjoy any moment and then something bad happens, I'll feel like I jinxed it (as opposed to if something bad happens after feeling stressed, I'll think it was just me knowing what was going to happen? Ugh idk!). I've had a lot of therapy sessions along this line lately, lol.

I did at least find out from our RE that they just put everyone on prednisone for inflammation (mamabird was on it too since we went to the same RE clinic), and said I'd be fine tapering off for a week. I'm still going to go slow, but I feel less dependent on it now knowing they didn't feel it was a thing specific to me!

Of course, now I'm worried all my boy OWTs will have just been from the prednisone, even though I know better than to believe in OWT ( I had plenty of boy ones with DD). I went NUTS earlier obsessing over some vein in the eye OWT I'd never even heard in previous pregnancies?! Ugh, the stress never ends.

When is your scan ABC?! I'm anxious for you to get some reassurance!

And BBB, you're so close!! I hope you feel more comfortable soon!

Good news about the prednisone TP.
How far along are you and what are your boy symptoms?

[ABC.2606]

BBB - Yea I can imagine you are getting pretty anxious to get little boy here!!!! So exciting though!!

Kitten - how are you feeling?

TP - Yea it is frustrating how they've acted. Oh well. That's good news about the Prednisone!! Did you/will you ask Mamabird how she weaned off of it? Are you doing progesterone as well? My scan is on Friday

I guess I had a hint at more symptoms today... Started feeling the slightest (and I mean, only the slightest) bit nauseated late this afternoon and was so sleepy I could barely keep my eyes open. Took a nap in which I fell into a deep sleep and was super ticked off when my alarm went off an hour later! So that's something right? I'm still feeling pretty concerned about my dropping progesterone numbers. Trying to decide whether to wait until Friday at my ultrasound and ask the doctor or call up my OBGYN (who I know I can actually get to call me back and whose opinion I really trust) to see what he thinks about it and if I should start the vaginal progesterone capsules he's given me in the past. Sigh... can't figure out what to do. Friday seems like a long ways away!

Cassidy I hope you're doing well!!

I think Kiku must be in the middle of her move now. Kiku if you see this I hope you're doing well too!!

[kittendreams]

Aside from bouts of gender anxiety I'm great abc. A touch nauseous and a little fatigued- oh and the usual reflux I get even before a bfp ( had it with ds1 &ds2 also) but that's it so far- trying to enjoy it before the ms kicks in!

[Throwaway_panther]

Good news about the prednisone TP.
How far along are you and what are your boy symptoms?

I know it's silly and they don't mean anything, but the lack of MS/nausea except for a passing moment here and there, pretty much no food aversions, hair growth is nuts, cold feet, headaches, hunger, cravings, backaches, etc. -- all very dumb, but I didn't have a lot of this with DD so when I'd look up "HEADACHES? PROGESTERONE DROPPING?" out of anxiety, I'd get surprised that, "Oh, that's a boy OWT? Huh." etc.

But I know better. This pregnancy could just be different because it's different. I had practically a sweets aversion with DD and craved meat and salty stuff and literally ate a whole lemon at one point with her lol (and now she loves lemon!). I also always have cold feet. And prednisone can explain the lack of nausea, food aversions, the hair growth and hunger. The hair growth one is dumb, but I do remember noticing barely needing to shave when I was pregnant with DD (which is VERY unusual for me -- I am a pretty hairy person by ethnicity), versus now I pretty much need to shave (and pluck -- eek) every day/every other day.

I read one too where boobs growing way bigger is a girl versus normal growth is a boy, which I'm sure means nothing, but my breasts did get NUTSO big with DD versus now I'm 10 weeks and in the same bras still (which yay, rib cage isn't TOO big yet lol).

I freaked myself out by the stupid "eye hooks/vein" thing yesterday. SO DUMB. I hate that I'm doing this to myself again!

And ABC, I'm not going to bother mamabird right now haha -- I am so happy to hear she has much better news, but I'll let her recover before pestering her with questions! I'm going to go with my original plan of slooooow weaning -- especially since apparently things can be rough coming off :/ (I was on it when I was much younger and had a bad time overall!). Lots of women get bad depression -- and I'm already feeling the gender depression slinking in on top of all my anxiety.

Also, don't stress about the progesterone!! I know it can waver a ton -- I can't remember if you're on supplementation or not? I am on it (though my progesterone was fine at 15DPO), and will probably be fully weaned by 14 weeks or so, too (or longer -- eek, I'm so nervous to go off anything now). I'm so happy to hear you're getting some symptoms (even though they suck!!) -- I hope it's making you feel better a bit for now!!

[Pbn3]

TP I had a heap of OWT's I did for fun (may have went a little nuts [emoji854] I figured hey this may be my last chance if I lose this pregnancy too do I just went for it!) As did a few in my group! Happy to share what owts we did? I actually created a spreadsheet with owt, our names and results at one stage [emoji23][emoji85][emoji87]

One thing I noticed different this pregnancy (not an owt) that hubby did too is I didn't get a 'noticable' linear nigra this pregnancy yet with the boys it was very noticable. I googled it once but found so many ladies who had different linear nigra's but same sex lol.

[Pbn3]

Ps I know about the eye vein one [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] and mine indicated boy so that one can be debunked right now!!

[Throwaway_panther]

Haha, do NOT give me that spreadsheet! I will go nuts obsessing! [emoji23]

But THANK YOU. I need to suck up every story of OWT meaning nothing with a straw. And what's worse? I can NEVER find a consistent story! The eye thing? I found just as much saying "a V or a Y shape" is what mattered, not what eye. Then I found one that said those shapes didn't matter, it was the "fish hooks" in eyes -- and somehow one in the right eye was boy, one in the left was girl, but one in both was also somehow girl? What?? AND THEN I FOUND THE SAME THING BUT REVERSED! lolol

I told myself with DD: "I will never buy the OWTs again." I had plenty of boy OWTs with her, too (like the supposed hair being good? My hair was SO beautiful when I was pregnant with her that I had to lie to people about what I was doing to my hair when they asked, since I hid that pregnancy until 17 weeks or so). And I had plenty of girl ones too. But people literally used to argue with me that I was having a boy lol!

I also never had a linea nigrea with DD but now I'll have to stress if that was because of the gender!! lol ugh. SEDATE ME!

[ABC.2606]

I have a Y vein in my left eye and a V vein in my right eye.. Crap, I am having twins, aren't I?!! LOL!!! I think I had a linea nigra with both of my boys. TP, I don't think those show up until later though if I remember!

Atomic had said over and over that with one of her boys she had every girl OWT in the book and he still came out all boy!!!

I think the one that *might* actually have some truth to it is being more hungry, since it's been shown that boy babies actually do need more calories in pregnancy than girls. I was STARVING the first several weeks of my pregnancy with DS2... Like, I'd eat and an hour later my stomach would be rumbling from hunger! Kinda had a hunch from that that he would be a boy. Even though my morning sickness with him started way earlier and more intense than with DS1!

But really I do think most OWTs are silly as there just can't be a correlation between most of them and gender!

TP - no I'm not on progesterone supplements... I have them, my OB prescribed with back before my first m/c. But the RE has never brought it up. That's why I've wondered if I should call my OB and ask if I should just use them... I feel like the RE wont recommend it unless my progesterone continues to drop and goes below 15, but she's not testing it again so we wont know if it does. Ugh...