July 2ww and ttc thread 2018

[ABC.2606]

CD22 for me. FF hasn't marked probable ovulation date yet, probably because I had so many differences in my charting. I am neatly certain I ovulated and will try to wait until the end of next week to test.
staying on the diet has been harder than before - solidarity with those of you struggling to stay on it!

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Good luck Gafan!!!

[ABC.2606]

Dont apologize. I cant imagine the pain and how heartbroken you and some other ladies have gone through. They are a part of you and they will always be there in your heart. I wish no women shall have to go through that, but it happens more often than I would think. I kinda want to tell family, but I am afraid, like you said, if something happens, I dont want our family to be so sad and disappointed. It will be first grandchild for both my and DH family.
12 weeks is a long time and I do want to tell our family slightly earlier than that. I will try to call doctor and see when I can come in. It most likely wont be till 8 weeks. DH thinks we should tell around 5-6 weeks.

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With my DS1 I told my mom the day I got my BFP, LOL! And I've basically told her right away with every pregnancy, including my 3 m/cs. She hasn't even always been the most supportive when it comes to responding to my pregnancies and m/cs but we're still very close so I just always feel the need to tell her right away anyways. We tell my dad and stepmom early too and this pregnancy we told my DH's dad and siblings very early. All of our immediate family members know about all 3 of our miscarriages. For me, I realized with m/c #1 that it doesn't bother me having people know that I m/c but it does bother me if I can't talk about/process it - and I did want those in our family to know what we were going through and we wanted that support. But that is just me - and other people have totally different feelings about announcing pregnancies and how they would feel if they miscarry and people know about it. It's totally individual and totally needs to be what's best for you and DH!!! Some people seem to like keeping it a secret for awhile - I'm terrible at that and want to tell everyone right away LOL!!!!

[emshe]

Guess who showed up? [emoji26] CD1 for me
Needing advice from those who asked for help from their doctor. Sorry for all the questions and word vomit that is about to happen. At what point do I ask for an appt? Insert eye roll from those TTC >6months. Big hugs to you. I'm sorry. There are a few factors that play into me wanting to get pregnant in the next two cycles. Our insurance year. It will cost thousands of dollars out of pocket for a third "year" in a row if I don't have a baby by June 30, 2019. I'm getting depressed. My doctor said that nearly all of her patients that try get pregnant within 3 months of a d&c, get pregnant. So I'm feeling like the odd ball- again. My cycles are a little unpredictable and seem to be getting shorter again. My LP was only 10 days and I've read that 10 days or less could be a progesterone issue. Am I unreasonable to even be worried at this point? My every thought, spare moment, food choice, etc for the past 7 months has been trying to have another baby.

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HG I’m so sorry. I wish this were different. Sending you a massive hug.
It can’t hurt to make an appointment & talk through your concerns. Whatever is going to help put your mind at ease you should do. Don’t feel like you’re rushing things by checking in with the dr, you’re empowering yourself to get pregnant.
Have a chat with atomic, it does seem sone simple tweaks have helped a lot of people get their bfp!
And I feel you on the focus on ttc, it is very consuming, hang in there.







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[emshe]

Thx u jgojah for prayer, im fine, and u? I had appointment and i saw small dot in ultrasound next appointment in 2 weeks it should be heartbeat
I still cant believe im pregnant. I wish u join me soon

That’s your baby Noemi!!!!!!!!!!!!
How wonderful


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[RaisingGentlemen3]

With my 1st 2 boys I dtd every other day and ds3 was an o+12 attempt. This time I wasn't worried about timing but trying to stick to a 7 day abstain. Although now it's looking like I might o Sunday bc my opk I took at work today is decently darker than yesterday at the same time. If I O Sunday we might try compressed fr (2x in 6 hrs) or a regular attempt. I'm not sure I want to miss the 1st month off bcp or if I should wait til next cycle. Which is better, 1st month off bcp or abstain?
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[gafan]

thanks for writing this, ABC. one of the things I wondered about my miscarriage at 7.5 weeks was if it was because I was losing weight (not swaying, just relatively low calories and probably sometimes not enough water if I forgot to drink it). It sounds like your doctor would tell me the weight loss had nothing to do with my miscarriage. I know that a developing embryo will take whatever nutrients needed from Mother's body, but I still worried about it.

Are you thinking with seeing your doc you may want to get Clomid/Femara? I can tell you my experience & how I ended up on Clomid. I had an early m/c last August after conceiving on our 2nd month TTC. I met with my doctor after that and told him we'd been trying "for a few months" (technically true since we started in July!), that I have super short cycles and that my LP is normally 9-10 days (all true!). I told him I felt like something was "off" with my cycles/hormones (even though I conceived my two boys w/ the same LP!). He agreed to do basic fertility testing over my next cycle but made it clear he would not offer any medication until he did so - so I had to wait that cycle out in terms of TTC. So he tested my AMH, FSH, estrogen, and post-O progesterone. All of those came back normal - although, my progesterone on CD21 was at the very low end of normal. So I think it was the combo of borderline progesterone, very short cycles/ LP and my recent m/c that made him lightly suggest that I could try Clomid if I wanted to. Because I wanted it for swaying I jumped on that offer right away! But yea so I got Clomid even though we get pregnant easily and I don't have PCOS, and I do think it helped my cycles in terms of producing a "better" ovulation and thus more progesterone post-O. In your case, if your cycles are getting less regular, you have a short LP and you had a miscarriage recently maybe your doc would be open to trying something, but if she's like my doc she may make you jump through a few hoops first (ie testing). As far as the LP, 9-10 days technically is long enough - but like atomic told me in the beginning of my swaying process, with that length of an LP you still may be a good candidate for a med like Clomid b/c it is a good treatment for short LPs.

I never in over a year of swaying, TTC-ing, 3 miscarriages, fertility testing, and then recurrent pregnancy loss testing with a Reproductive Endocrinologist told my doctors about my swaying. I can't imagine telling them all I was doing (dieting, alcohol, coffee, etc) to try to get a girl would have gone over at all well with them and I'm sure they would have told me to drop those things as they were likely harming my fertility. I did however at one point tell my RE that I had lost a lot of weight over the past year and asked if that be a factor in my m/cs and she said no, not at all. But yea I wouldn't bring that stuff up either. I think outside of our community here it would be really hard for most people to understand all the things we'll put ourselves through to get a girl - even though we know that nothing atomic recommends here is dangerous and she's done her research on what is safe and what's not in terms of swaying!

I'm sorry you didn't see a BFP this month - I'm really bummed about that as well!! Hang in there, as I was told over and over by those on here, your sticky bean will come!! That sucks about the insurance stuff - such a freaking pain and so insanely expensive!!

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[Pbn3]

With my 1st 2 boys I dtd every other day and ds3 was an o+12 attempt. This time I wasn't worried about timing but trying to stick to a 7 day abstain. Although now it's looking like I might o Sunday bc my opk I took at work today is decently darker than yesterday at the same time. If I O Sunday we might try compressed fr (2x in 6 hrs) or a regular attempt. I'm not sure I want to miss the 1st month off bcp or if I should wait til next cycle. Which is better, 1st month off bcp or abstain?
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Raisinggentlemen this is a question for Atomic [emoji4] Can you create a new thread under ttc girl forum? I'm fairly sure coming off bc sways quite strongly pink and I'm not sure if it's wise to potentially 'not' get an attempt in if the compressed fr doesn't work out (hubby unable to see second release through (it being your actual attempt)) so I'd probably just have a standard attempt and maybe j&d after a couple minutes as a compromise? Again though, this is an Atomic question so please run it past her [emoji4]

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[HGmama]

Are you thinking with seeing your doc you may want to get Clomid/Femara? I can tell you my experience & how I ended up on Clomid. I had an early m/c last August after conceiving on our 2nd month TTC. I met with my doctor after that and told him we'd been trying "for a few months" (technically true since we started in July!), that I have super short cycles and that my LP is normally 9-10 days (all true!). I told him I felt like something was "off" with my cycles/hormones (even though I conceived my two boys w/ the same LP!). He agreed to do basic fertility testing over my next cycle but made it clear he would not offer any medication until he did so - so I had to wait that cycle out in terms of TTC. So he tested my AMH, FSH, estrogen, and post-O progesterone. All of those came back normal - although, my progesterone on CD21 was at the very low end of normal. So I think it was the combo of borderline progesterone, very short cycles/ LP and my recent m/c that made him lightly suggest that I could try Clomid if I wanted to. Because I wanted it for swaying I jumped on that offer right away! But yea so I got Clomid even though we get pregnant easily and I don't have PCOS, and I do think it helped my cycles in terms of producing a "better" ovulation and thus more progesterone post-O. In your case, if your cycles are getting less regular, you have a short LP and you had a miscarriage recently maybe your doc would be open to trying something, but if she's like my doc she may make you jump through a few hoops first (ie testing). As far as the LP, 9-10 days technically is long enough - but like atomic told me in the beginning of my swaying process, with that length of an LP you still may be a good candidate for a med like Clomid b/c it is a good treatment for short LPs.

I never in over a year of swaying, TTC-ing, 3 miscarriages, fertility testing, and then recurrent pregnancy loss testing with a Reproductive Endocrinologist told my doctors about my swaying. I can't imagine telling them all I was doing (dieting, alcohol, coffee, etc) to try to get a girl would have gone over at all well with them and I'm sure they would have told me to drop those things as they were likely harming my fertility. I did however at one point tell my RE that I had lost a lot of weight over the past year and asked if that be a factor in my m/cs and she said no, not at all. But yea I wouldn't bring that stuff up either. I think outside of our community here it would be really hard for most people to understand all the things we'll put ourselves through to get a girl - even though we know that nothing atomic recommends here is dangerous and she's done her research on what is safe and what's not in terms of swaying!

I'm sorry you didn't see a BFP this month - I'm really bummed about that as well!! Hang in there, as I was told over and over by those on here, your sticky bean will come!! That sucks about the insurance stuff - such a freaking pain and so insanely expensive!!

ABC- thanks for hopping in to comment. I'm not sure what I want out of my doctor yet, maybe just opinions and a plan. I made an appt for Aug 1st. That will be CD 20 for me. I'm hoping that it will all be a great jinx and I will be getting a BFP just days after meeting with her. Wouldn't that be ideal??? Thank you for telling me your story. I would be open to clomid or femara, but by tracking my cycles, it does seem like I am ovulating so I don't know if clomid or femara is needed- but I didn't know it could help me LP. I too have a short LP, averaging 10-11. I am so within a normal range of cycle length, but my O is a different CD every cycle. I wouldn't mind it for the swaying though. I would like labwork. I feel like I am STRUGGLING with not losing weight and I am truly trying. I have gained 15 lbs since March's miscarriage. I also do think I need to get back on a TTC/pregnancy safe anti-depressant. I got off a non-safe one in November, but given my previous history of intrapartum and PPD, I might need it all the time now. So those are my goals. Back on meds and a plan to check me out post mc.
So back in December when I got my IUD out, I did tell her that I had a swaying for girl plan. I was doing IG things at that point as I had not found this site yet. I explained why I was taking Cal-Mag and Cranberry. She said "Cool, my sister did all the girl things when she was TTC a girl." So other than that, I don't think I will further talk about swaying. When making the appt, the nurse said, "are you having sex every other day?" I almost LOL. DH and I would never be able keep that up. Do I fib on how often I am BDing?

[HGmama]

[QUOTE=emshe;989759]HG I’m so sorry. I wish this were different. Sending you a massive hug.

Thanks Emshe! I posted most of my follow up on ABCs reply. Thank you for validating my feelings on empowering myself to get pregnant. I like how you think.

[HGmama]

No, you do NOT need to tell your doctor about swaying and in fact you shouldn't. They will simply seize upon that as a reason you have not conceived and do NO investigation even though swaying should not be preventing most of you from conception (we have average 3 months to conception) as long as you don't cut back too far and you drop sway tactics over time. There could very easily be something that is wrong that a doctor can fix with a pill but they won't do that if they assume that you're doing something that may harm your chances of conceiving.

HG, I have tried and true methods for boosting odds of conception that have helped all but a handful of people conceive since 2010. I am more than happy to help anyone up their chances of conception but please go off what I say and not others, even though they mean well they just don't have the same level of experience I do. We are hitting a moving target between swaying pink and conceiving and it takes minor adjustments sometimes to make that happen. No one wants to toss out a sway boosting odds of conception when there are ways to BOTH keep swaying AND boost odds of conception.

It is not enough just to eat more nutrients. Remember, there are blue swayers and people who are not even swaying and eating tons of nutrients and still don't get pregnant. Sometimes people think "oh I need chicken and prenatals" when neither of those things even ups your chances of conceiving. What we may need is calories overall and fat, and then to ditch any extraneous sway tactics and adding attempts properly, not just willy nilly. Just eating more nutrients and having more attempts is not enough (because many times the way people add attempts doesn't even boost their chances of conceiving anyway.)

Ladies, it's literally impossible for me to keep up on these threads. I WANT to help anyone who is struggling but I cannot always read every question in these threads. Sometimes you're not going to get the same advice that I would give in them. So if you need help, please start a dedicated thread just for yourself where I can help you one on one and not in a long thread where lots of people are asking lots of questions and everyone's situation gets all confused as to who I'm answering and what questions I'm replying to.

Atomic- Thank you for posting! I have already had a slight mention of swaying girl which she had no problem with. I won't mention any more unless specifically asked. Today I bought my big plan and sent in my questionnaires. That way we can chat back and forth and come up with a good plan to boost odds both ways.