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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Do the same thing. If you give me a rundown of your diet I can tell you if anything jumps out to me. I have recently had several people who tell me "I'm doing the PCOS Diet" and then when I look at their diet, they're doing several things incorrectly.
    Thank you atomic, if I get the chance to sway again I will buy a plan for sure so that we can go into detail a bit more. But good to know that I wouldn't have to switch to standard LE diet as I'm normally not eating white carbs at all.

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    NO ONE needs to do standard LE Diet. The alternate diet has gotten better results. I would very likely have everyone on it now but the problem is that many people can't stick to it, can't afford it (it's far more expensive), and will lose massive amounts of weight while following it. But it is fine for ANYONE to stick to whole grains, we just have not seen the white flour working for us for swaying
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    NO ONE needs to do standard LE Diet. The alternate diet has gotten better results. I would very likely have everyone on it now but the problem is that many people can't stick to it, can't afford it (it's far more expensive), and will lose massive amounts of weight while following it. But it is fine for ANYONE to stick to whole grains, we just have not seen the white flour working for us for swaying
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    thanks to everyone. Atomic - so i might have fallen in the "I only ate veggies, exercised like crazy 6 days a week at 60 min, lost a ton of weight" group. So its been a little while and I still run but only about 35minutes and its usually like 3-4x a week.

    I'm back to eating meats and have gained back to my normal weight over the past 2 years. If I sway again it will be for fun because while I believe it works but like you said it takes some lucky and I'm a believer - "whatever is meant to be it will happen and if its not meant to be whatever we do it won't matter too much" However, I'd like to maybe understand alternate PCOS-type diet.

    When I read the posting I don't really understand what the difference is between alt PCOS vs LE diet. I'd love to understand in general terms what it is. You have outlined the things to eat and down to the grams of fat etc. but I'm not sure if I'm going to be counting calories and grams of exactly what I am eating.

    Any pointers would be very helpful. I usually eat toast in the AM with a cup of coffee (sugar and cream), lunch I eat a salad that generally has no meats but with quinoa or brown rice, corn some slices of avocado and its usually with Kale, arugula or baby spinach. At night I'll eat some meats (chicken, pork, steak), veggies etc. and always with white rice. Any comments on lifestyle changes or foods to take out, eat less or incorporate?

    thanks so much Atomic!
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    Alternate LE Diet (because they are BOTH LE Diet!)

    1500-1800 cals for most people (some need to eat more to prevent excess weight gain, more like 1800-2000)
    50-60 g protein and fat (this means you will be eating fewer carbs as a result because you keep calories the same but get a higher % of your calories from protein and fat - you do NOT need to count carbs, only cals, protein, and fat)

    no sugar

    whole grains instead of white flour

    Low carb veg free and unlimited, count nothing in them, higher carb veg and fruit count only calories, not protein or fat, they're free for protein and fat.

    White rice is a gray area, it's better tolerated than white wheat products so it's up to you if you prefer to use white rice instead of browh.

    That's really it. I think it could work for you.
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    Hi Atomic
    What’s the big difference between LE diet and alternate PCOS diet? Should I not eat as much carbs in the alternate? And don’t eat sugar? I can’t tell the difference? And at first glance what do you think of my lifestyle? Toast in AM (adjust that to whole grain bread), coffee but I take it with sugar, salad for lunch but at dinner I do eat meats (not huge amounts) either with noodle (which I would need to adjust) or rice and with veggies...any adjustments you think?
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    Did you see my above post?

    You switch from white flour and sugar to no sugar and whole grains. (so healthier carbs, better for blood sugar) You'll boost your intake of protein and fat slightly but keep calories the same which in effect cuts carb intake without having to count the carbs, but still getting more cals from carbs overall.

    Also I forgot to mention this in my above post but use full fat dairy ONLY, no skim or part skim dairy. Skim dairy is terrible for blood sugar levels and PCOS.

    They're STILL both LE Diet. The differences are subtle but they really do make a difference.

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    Thanks so much Atomic. Yeah the difference are subtle but I get now ... no sugar (that’s hard ) and no white carbs... do you recommend 12 weeks? Thanks so much!

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    Yep. 12 weeks + has gotten best results.

    Keep the sugar thing in perspective and remember the 80-20 rule. (you get 80% of results with 20% of the effort and to get the remaining 20% of the results, you have to put out 80% of the effort...and with swaying, putting out 80% of the effort entails being such a huge control freak that you'd ruin your sway anyway doing that!) Avoid sugar most of the time and then if you're dying from lack of sugar, eat something reasonable. It will still be extremely different than eating Pop Tarts and gummy worms in your sway diet every day.
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    Hi there,

    I have a few questions about this thread. We have finally decided to go for a fourth and are trying to think about doing another girl sway (we failed with our last attempt), or going HT. I am very scared of the emotional, mental and physical toll of IVF and my hubby is kind of against PGD.

    First, I'm wondering if it really matters as to how you loose the weight for your girl-sway. For example, if you do a KETO or say Kelly Leveque's 'diet' (Green smoothies, very low carb, high fat, no sugar etc. - Be Well By Kelly) - does that mean you won't be able to sway? Is it fundamentally about losing the weight, or about how you go about losing? Also, what if you lose so much weight that you lose your period? Isn't that problematic for swaying?

    Second, atomic, do you recommend having my hubby's sperm tested? I read somewhere that some men can get tested to see if they produce sperm with more Y chromosomes than X? Is this true? If we found this to be the case with my hubby, then we may end up going to do HT.

    Thanks!

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