Clomid

[Beans626]

Atomic - what is the recommendation for ffrequent BD, or one attempt if you are using Clomid with a trigger injection? I am taking 100 mg Clomid on CD 2-6 and 10,000 units HCG upon positive OPK, with a 5,000 HCG booster 3-5 days after ovulation. I also have Estrace to use after a couple of months if my lining thins any. I am just wondering what the best way to BD would be with all of this. Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

how long ahve you been on clomid

[Beans626]

This is my first month. I am taking it CD 2-6 and today is the second day of taking it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok so here is the schedule I"ve been using pretty successfully

1st 2 months on Clomid - one attempt at pos OPK

2nd 2 months - every 4 days

5th month - every 4 days plus one additional attempt at pos OPK

6th month - SMEP

7th month (you won't be taking Clomid this month, but it still seems to be swaying) - back to every 4 days plus one additional attempt at pos OPK

I would not have you use the Estrace, I think it sways blue

[Beans626]

Thank you so much Atomic!!! I really appreciate your input. We actually did the 2nd two month protocol this month based on what your articles said as far as getting pg quickly on clomid. We BD on 7/22, 7/23 (still was lightly spotting from AF), 7/26, and 7/29. I triggered at a positive OPK on 7/28 in the evening and 36 hours later would be the morning of 7/30.

DH did a very shallow release and no "O" for me...I hope the CLomid and timing were enough to get it. I did notice i had NO EWCM this time around and I can usually see it increasing and then changing from creamy to EWCM. Nothing like that this time. I almost thought we were going to need a lubricant at one point. But, we used nothing for the attempt at O.

I am curious about your thoughts on Estrace. I know it is meant to help with lining (so therefore probable implantation). I also know that it sort of counteracts the drying up benefits of the Clomid. It is typically used after the Clomid and continuing through the first couple of weeks. What about using it after O (maybe 2DPO through AF/BFP)? Do you think this would do anything to help lining and chances of implantation while not interferring with the sway benefits of Clomid? I know none of this is proven, which is just why I am curious for your educated opinion.

[atomic sagebrush]

read in another thread you were planning to use the Estrace only after O, beans. I think it is ~probably~ ok for the sway, but I don't think it's going to DO anything to help and thus I have to ask really what the point of doing that would be. THe lining is formed at that point, for the most part, and while some estrogen can help maintain it a bit longer, Clomid is already darn good at extending LP to start with. My thinking would be to hang onto the Estrace and if you go on 4 months with BFN, add it in at that point (in the standard way of using it.)

I am also a bit wary about using it in early pg and then dropping it, except under the advice of a doctor. I don't like sending that signal to your body that hormone levels were at X level and now it's suddenly dropped - at least not before the placenta is well developed at the end of the first trimester. How do the HT docs usually have people come off it?

[bpram]

Hi all, I'm on my second round of clomid. 1st round I did not ovulate on 50 mg so this month I am taking 100 mg. Last time a got a boy on 100 mg but no diet so crossing my fingers that I can get a girl this time.
Can I do anything to dry my ewcm? Do not think Clomid does the job. And should I add calcium/mag supplements? Not taking anything apart from baby aspirin (1 pr day) and folic (800 mg pr day). Thank you ����

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I'm on 100mg and it did nothing for my EWCM either. Antihistamines apparently is the go to; atomic can recommend a couple - I can't remember which ones atm, but there are various threads we can look up.
What is baby aspirin used for in a sway?


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[atomic sagebrush]

There are VERY LIKELY changes in your CM that you can't see with the naked eye and I really do not recommend adding in antihistamines for anyone, especially those who need Clomid to conceive and have used it in the past. There is a lifetime limit of number of Clomid cycles you can use and I do not want anyone who needs Clomid to do much of anything to prohibit conception because you may be "using up" months on having attempts that are not viable ones.

Remember, less/dryer CM is just a hypothesis with no hard evidence to back it up. We GUESS that it may sway, but we do not know that.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm on 100mg and it did nothing for my EWCM either. Antihistamines apparently is the go to; atomic can recommend a couple - I can't remember which ones atm, but there are various threads we can look up.
What is baby aspirin used for in a sway?


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If you guys MUST use antihistamine, do rescue method only 1 cetirizine 6 hours before attempt.

Aspirin used to be for pH, but we got so-so results with it, had lots of side effects and new evidence came to light that indicated that aspirin could have even worse side effects (dangerous) than we realized. I felt like it wasn't worth the risks for results that weren't stellar. That having been said a large minority of women are given baby aspirin by their doctors for medical conditions like MTHFR and other clotting problems or after repeat chemicals, and that is fine, they should carry on doing that. I am just not down with using aspirin any more JUST for swaying.