Miracle attempt finished....

[essnce629]

I'm so so sorry! I haven't been on here for a few weeks and checked in just to see how you were doing. My heart breaks for you. (((HUGS)))

[MrsGoodies]

8w4d today....

I got my beta #6 from last week and my HCG actually ROSE from 19241 to 28674! WTF?!

This right here is the reason I believe "rising betas" mean diddly-squat! If all I was testing was beta hcg, i would have got a call today about how wonderful my #'s are even though the babe died two weeks ago....

Only thing predictive for me has been the serial progesterone #'s which dropped like clockwork 74 to 44 the very week my little one passed...and they have stayed low ever since.

Progesterone dropped from 44 to 24 at least (that took 10 days)...so it looks like another few days wait for me at least

[atomic sagebrush]

Ih, that's good clarification. I was including fruits/veg in the fat&protein totals.

Does that mean eating avocados does not count as fat?

Full fat dairy serving do you mean milk or can cheese be full fat. i only drink 1% milk. I really don't like 3.25% at all ...or milk in general but when I cut out the meat i added dairy as a replacement.

I was only eating 1 egg per week so I will up those as well.

Avocados are the exception, sorry I should have mentioned that. You do count fat in those but not protein.

Any full fat dairy is fine. Cheese, yogurt, both good.

There is something in skimmed milk that seems to be very bad for fertility and egg quality. I'd go so far as to suggest dropping the 1% totally. We don't know what it is but women who drink even 2% milk have lower odds of conception vs. those who do not drink skimmed dairy at all. (even nothing is better than skim and 1% and even 2%). And full fat improves fertility. So this may be something to switch up.

[MrsGoodies]

Yes bit if I switch to 3.25% dairy then it will push me over the fat limits on LE. Its a 10-15 g difference...

Then I won't have room to add the extra eggs which is also upping the fat/protien.

[atomic sagebrush]

It doesn't matter. You may need the fat to make sex hormones with. If you are concerned about it, then drop some vegetable fats from your diet.

Some people even add them ONTO a full LE Diet already.

[MrsGoodies]

Thanks Atomic,

Does EVERY dairy serving need to be full fat? Or is low fat milk acceptable if i still eat full fat yoghurt and cheese?

[MrsGoodies]

Update: Beta #7... Hcg still high @24000 (but at least it its finally starting to drop 4000 in a week). Progesterone still low at 25 nmol/L (8 ng/ml)....i'm surprised i've had no spotting and can still hold a pg with a # this low....

Other than that I've had mild cramping daily, feel generally NOT myself, and noticed ew-like stringy discharge last 3 nights.

I hope it starts soon. I just want to get this over with. Its so mentally exhausting!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks Atomic,

Does EVERY dairy serving need to be full fat? Or is low fat milk acceptable if i still eat full fat yoghurt and cheese?

Well, if what the data seems to indicate is true, and there is something in skim dairy that harms fertility, then yes, a person might want to totally drop skim dairy in favor of full fat.

HOw much milk are you drinking a day, anyway?

[MrsGoodies]

Well, if what the data seems to indicate is true, and there is something in skim dairy that harms fertility, then yes, a person might want to totally drop skim dairy in favor of full fat.

HOw much milk are you drinking a day, anyway?

2 glasses (16 oz)

If i have a yogurt then I only have (12 oz) milk

I needed a protein substitute when I dropped the meat.

[atomic sagebrush]

I would reduce this by 1/2, and use full fat instead.

Or, just roll with it. It's only a bit of extra fat (16 oz whole has 15 g fat, 16 oz 2% has 9 g fat, this is not anything to sweat over)

If you do reduce by 1/2, use some other source of protein instead. 8 g protein is easy to come by, via eggs or almonds both of which are helpful to fertility (in fact one egg would get you 6 g of that)