I need help with OPK

[LacePrincess]

That's not true, you can have multiple surges and not ovulate. I've had months where I get positives and no ovulation until 4-5 days later, and in between the line has faded and come back positive again. I keep testing until I have a decent temp shift.

Northern, I think you interpreted my post incorrectly. I didn't mean that the first +OPK confirms O. OPK's only confirm an LH surge has started.

Yes you can have multiple fake estrogen surges, and multiple fake LH surges. (Although, fake LH surges are rarer than fake-out estrogen surges). But when looking at OPK's from one 'surge event', if you will, the first OPK is the only one that counts if you're trying to time BD. After the first +OPK some people might have multiple days of +OPK afterwards (I'm not talking about a fadeout and another surge like days or weeks later), and it's confusing because they keep thinking they haven't O'ed. In your case you were having multiple LH surge 'events', as shown by the fadeouts (and negative) OPK's in between. My previous post was only talking about what commonly happens, when someone has like 3 days in a row of many +OPK's and is confused when to BD.

But yes I agree with you that OPK's don't confirm O, they only detect LH. The only way to know for sure O occurred is to wait for 3 days of sustained thermal shift. But of course by the time you see that the egg has come and gone for that cycle.

[LacePrincess]

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psf80383c1.jpg

So the top one is Monday.
The 2 in the middle are from yesterday.
The bottom 2 from today.

I was trying a 5/6 day abstain with a one time shot. We BD'ed late Monday night but now I'm thinking I should tonight. I still have some wet CF. haven't had EW since Monday. Thoughts?

Okay, the top one is negative. The second from the top one is definitely positive. It's impossible to really pinpoint O, but you should O 12-36 hours from the second OPK, in other words sometime overnight yesterday or sometime today.

If you bd again today you'd definitely increase your chances of conception, but, you'd also be totally erasing your abstaining strategy. When you abstain you pretty much limit yourself to just one attempt. Anymore and you've undone any benefits of abstaining. So it's up to you if you want to risk possibly swaying blue by doing that.

[hplnvf32]

Just seeing your response. If I ovulated overnight last night or sometime today, I feel like there is a chance of getting pregnant because we BD'ed at 11 pm Monday night. So monday to Tuesday night at 11pm would be 24 hours and Tuesday to 11 am today would be 36 hours. And with the cervical fluid I was feeling, there is more of a chance that sperm were still alive 36 hours later. If we BD tonight, it would be after my DD goes to bed so it may be too late anyway.

[hplnvf32]

and btw, my temp did not go up this morning so I am thinking I may ovulate today.....

[LacePrincess]

Just seeing your response. If I ovulated overnight last night or sometime today, I feel like there is a chance of getting pregnant because we BD'ed at 11 pm Monday night. So monday to Tuesday night at 11pm would be 24 hours and Tuesday to 11 am today would be 36 hours. And with the cervical fluid I was feeling, there is more of a chance that sperm were still alive 36 hours later. If we BD tonight, it would be after my DD goes to bed so it may be too late anyway.

For sure the sperm should definitely be viable for at LEAST 48 hours if you had good EWCM at the time. If you can rein in your impulse, I'd really encourage you to just hang in there and leave it at the one attempt unless you're really willing to completely give up on the abstain. If you're in early months trying, you don't want to have any regrets that you rushed things along and wish later that you'd been more patient, kwim?

I agree that you probably will ovulate sometime today. Hope you see a temp rise in the morning!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, that is totally normal and can be very handy!

[atomic sagebrush]

I know, I am confused too. My OPK yesterday was very positive around 2 pm but it is still very positive today. Does that mean I will probably ovulate tomorrow?

No, it doesn't matter how long the test is positive for, you'll ovulate 8-48 hours after the FIRST positive test even if your test stays positive for 700 years afterrwards

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks, I should have clarified that the reason I am confused is because yesterdays OPK, my line was EXACTLY the same color as the control line but today it is darker than the control line.

I understand and that can be very tricky. The only solution is a smiley but they are SOOOO expensive and still aren't 100% accurate.

[atomic sagebrush]

That's not true, you can have multiple surges and not ovulate. I've had months where I get positives and no ovulation until 4-5 days later, and in between the line has faded and come back positive again. I keep testing until I have a decent temp shift.

This is true, but Lace means that provided the first pos OPK is a real positive and not from a fake surge, then it doesn't matter if it stays positive for 3 days afterwards.

[atomic sagebrush]

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psf80383c1.jpg

So the top one is Monday.
The 2 in the middle are from yesterday.
The bottom 2 from today.

I was trying a 5/6 day abstain with a one time shot. We BD'ed late Monday night but now I'm thinking I should tonight. I still have some wet CF. haven't had EW since Monday. Thoughts?

The top one does not look pos to me but the others all are. You will O 8-48 hours after the first pos on Monday.