I just want to cry!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks atomic I'm still going to be temping. I'm still in the 1800-2000 calorie limits that you recommended, still doing my 60 min of walking/6 days a week. I actually don't prohibit any food except meat, chicken or fish, but yesterday I wanted to indulge so bad after 9 1/2 weeks of LE and had me 3pcs of grilled chicken lol. Back to business ad of today. Is the chart not quite showing ovulation yet? Btw all the open circles are days that I was sleep deprived. TIA

it's because your temps are just NOT that much higher than some of your pre-O temps...it looks a bit see-saw-y and not cut and dry obvious ov.

[black&gold]

I just want to say one thing very firmly to clarify - the vast majority of people whose ovulation got messed up on LE Diet were dieting much more strictly than I recommend (and in fact were not really even DOING LE Diet). So if one is doing LE Diet as it is written and not getting BFP, I do NOT want to see people blaming it on diet based on other people's experiences (who weren't even doing LE
Diet) and dropping or cutting back on a good LE Diet. Starvation is not LE Diet.

What used to happen back on IG all the time, was that people would do these really super duper strict sways with chemistry and timing, etc. and then decide that diet was somehow preventing pregnancy and drop diet FIRST before even adjusting to less strict with the other stuff. So they'd trade stuff that didn't even sway and/or really prevents conception, for the one thing that does sway.
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I don't want that to happen here, but I need you guys to meet me halfway, firstly by not starting off so strictly on diet - start off above where you think you need to be and then you can cut back later on, and secondly by letting go of the other stuff FIRST like the jellies and so on. The stats show clearly that those things are not that effective when compared to diet (when you're on it for long enough) exercise, and lifestyle and so they need to go before dropping or loosening up on diet.

Short version of all that - most of the people who had to loosen up on diet because it messed up their cycles were dieting way way too strictly to begin with, so start off less strict, you can always cut back.

Atomic, I should have clarified that the people I was thinking of and referring to were all doing way to strict and not what you advised. I know you always recommended I upped my cals and that I wasn't doing the LE but more starving myself so I'm not blaming your information for causing the problems - more the way I took it way too far which I've read a lot of ladies doing lately. I wasn't sure if this lady was one of them so that's why I brought it up. Was definitely not trying to give misinformation - sorry if it came across that way!

[atomic sagebrush]

no please don't even worry about it at all. sometimes I just chime in when I want to expound upon something and it's not directed at the person who made the post, but it comes off that way. was not at all my intention and I always appreciate everyone who takes the time to respond to threads!!!

[rainbowflower]

looking at your chart, you have dashed crosshairs not solid which indicate that FF isn't really sure... it's that white dot temp that's making it think you've OVed, but a white dot means there may have been an inconcistency in that dot (i.e. you took it at a different time to normal, or had alcohol).

keep up the OPKs, etc

[atomic sagebrush]

yes and please note how virtually ALL the temps save that one, were similar range to the temps before and after this supposed "ovulation"

[lovemy2blessings]

Thanks a bunch ladies...I just took another OPK as I hadn't taken one in about 3 days (didn't have the chance to go to the store, but was checking cervix, cm and temping) my opk came out negative, BUT I just checked my ferning and I'm Fully ferning for the first time in who know's how long...also just checked my cervix it doesn't feel that low anymore like the other days I would just touch and it was right there not right now...so I'm SUPER excited now!!!

The only thing that worries me is that I've been stressing a lot these past few days because I thought I was never going to O and because I had a chicken cheat meal yesterday...I hope my sway is still ok if I do O in the next few days plus we are at a 4 day of abstain right now...

[atomic sagebrush]

You may only BE ovulating because you ate that chicken so no worries there.

It is always something with swaying - never an ideal month and so you just gotta say, "ok, I have done what I could do" and take a deep breath and hand it over to God/Fate because that's really whose hands it is in, in the final analysis.

[lovemy2blessings]

You re so right atomic!, I have been praying day and night for our future healthy baby girl and all I can do is leave it in God's hands. I have done my best on the LE and stressing over everything when I know that at the end God has the final decision. I really hope that this is our month (Aug/Sept) so I can indulge in everything lol

[atomic sagebrush]

you can do everything ever heard of for swaying and do it absolutely perfectly, and at the end of it all God just says "no".

[rainbowflower]

chicken is even allowed in small amounts in the FGD, so in the terms of cheats you can feel no guilt over that one