Commonalities between those TTC pink but got Blue

[weeziewoozles]

Interesting. I kinda want to look at all that but am trying not to be a Martha. My failed sway was a strict LE diet with hardly any cheats but no Vitex or Saw Palmetto as I didn't think I needed them as my cycles were fine. Hope you spot a patted that can help us

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[atomic sagebrush]

I would say the number one thing that causes people to sway pink and get blue is going through and analyzing spreadsheet data.

[atomic sagebrush]

NO ONE GO THROUGH AND ANALYZE DATA IF YOU ARE SWAYING. EVER. If you are preggo and bored, then yeah ok. Not if you are actively swaying or will be within the next 3 months. A kajillion other people have already done so and there is nothing new there.

I can't say it any more strongly than that. Trust me, hundreds if not thousands of women have gone through and done exactly that looking for some magical combination of sway tactics that will be a magic bullet. IT DOESN'T EXIST. The main factor in a failed sway is BAD LUCK. That's it. Nothing more amazing than that. There is nothing you can control or uncover that is going to guarantee your sway will succeed. If swaying could ever be any type of sure thing, the entire human race would have died out a long time ago, the first time the tribe camped near the vitex bush (which our nearest biological relative, the chimpanzee, actually does regularly.)

I do not want anyone taking any information from 5 freaking people and extrapolating that to anything. 5 people is not a scientific sample size. 50 people is not a scientific sample size. Look at the data we are getting that is getting into the hundreds. That is what tells us stuff. Aside from that, there are serious and important reasons why I do not give custom sway people particular herbs/medications in their plans. The implication that I am in some way shortchanging them or setting them up for failure is not terribly cool from my perspective (I know that was not your intention BTW) and also sets them up to take things that are not right for their health and well being behind my back when I can't help them.

I have been doing this for going on 7 years now and while I appreciate that one should never trust any authority figure, at the same time I feel like I am a little bit of an "eye in the sky" on sway tactics and I have a feel for it and a passion that goes so far beyond anything that is represented in any spreadsheet anywhere. I started this journey back on Ingender and my experience encompasses both that plus a lot of other experiences that are not always contained in a simple spreadsheet (including blue swayers and a lot of people who never posted a sway) I am very far from the font of all earthly knowledge and always welcome any questions/concerns but boy oh boy do I hate to see you lovely ladies undermining your sways by going all "Martha" on a spreadsheet when I know from experience, observation, and common sense that it's just not that informative.

Re one attempt - yep, I was dead wrong on that. When I first came to this site I knew it couldn't be timing that was swaying because it was biologically impossible. But at the same time, enough people claimed timing was working for them that I decided, ok if timing doesn't work, what is? Frequency patterns seemed the most likely and I had people give it a try. It didn't cross my mind at that point that it could be number of attempts. My bad. But as soon as I realized that one attempt was getting way better numbers, I did a complete 180 and began advocating for one attempt as vociferously as I could. (and I think the ladies who got boys doing more than one attempt are HEROES because if not for them we would not know what we do today.) You guys have my word that I will do the same for any strong sway pattern that I see.

Thus, Marthas of the world, while I know it's difficult, I beseech you to trust me that I am constantly studying and pondering and wondering about swaying and how it all fits together and that I always always have your best interests at heart, both for safety and for swaying.

[Christi]

Atomic, thank you for your lengthy explanation. And of course, you are right, I never meant to suggest that you some how short changed anyone in their custom sways. In fact, I was looking at the custom sways because those were the ones that presumably had the very best advice--from you!! I know it comes down to bad luck when a sway doesn't work out, but i was still curious to see what the differences/commonalities were.

We all appreciate what you do here on GenderDreaming and know you have our best interests at heart. I apologize if I have caused any offense to you.

[weeziewoozles]

I would say the number one thing that causes people to sway pink and get blue is going through and analyzing spreadsheet data.

Ha ha ha! Brilliant!

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm not offended at all and I know that was not your intention, Christi. But you remember when and why you were worried about the cranberry vs. OLE, right? So I don't want anyone who I did not give V and SP reading this thread and then panicking or thinking I'm taking chances with their sways in any way.