Best Practices with an IUI?

[atomic sagebrush]

Bummer that it sways blue, since I am requiring iui and hope for a girl :-(

Peopel who really truly need IUI in order to get pregnant may be coming in more "set" for girls than the population as a whole, though.

[atomic sagebrush]

There's more than one study that found that, for a while timing was in vogue and it was tested more than one time. Not super large sample sizes, not super respectable people testing it either (lots o people selling revolutionary methods of sex selection LOL), but when it comes to studies we have to take what we can get because so few respectable people are interested in studying it. :/

No one knows why male fertility issues and sperm quality seems to sway pink, but it has been shown in tons of studies (one of the best proven things) and it's all things that are totally dissimilar and unrelated, like biking and marathon running, certian careers like pesticide application/anesthesia/chemist, things that lower oxygen levels like deep sea divers and fighter pilots, smoking and marijuana use, certain medications and even diseases - all have been well demonstrated, anything that is harmful to sperm sways pink for reasons we can only guess at.

Success with IUI does vary by couple - is IVF any sort of option??? That way you could be assured you'd be able to put some babies on ice if you needed to.

[Keshet]

Do you think that old eggs qualifies me as being one of those people more set to have girls? Or is it other kinds of fertility problems that sways pink?

[atomic sagebrush]

Do you think that old eggs qualifies me as being one of those people more set to have girls? Or is it other kinds of fertility problems that sways pink?

I think it's other fertility problems (lower sperm quality, bad cervical mucus) BUT what you have to understand is, it's never just "old eggs", our fertility declines overall and so you may very well fall into this cateory without realizing it.

[Keshet]

I can only hope for a good outcome. Part of me still wonders about going for IVF. I tried IVF twice and wasn't successful. I'm older at 42. The Dr. Thought that I would have a better chance with iui because I would be able to afford 4 iui cycles for the same price as 1 ivf. That would give me more eggs to work with. While, I am so torn because I really wish I can do ivf, I also must face reality. I reasoned that if I would do ivf, it would only be one more. And if it didn't work, then I would want to try for either gender. But since I don't expect an abundance of blasts, maybe one, I will end up with either a girl, or an boy, or nothing. And I want something. And if the blast is not a girl, I would try naturally. And since it has been harder at my age to get pregnant naturally, I decided to turn to medical intervention to help with that process. So I didn't feel like I could justify the cost in my case. My ivf cycles were terrible. I know that you weren't asking for all this info, I feel like I am not so entirely convinced, but am proceeding with iui currently. Maybe we should have a special subgroup for those of us going through iui, but still wishing for a particular gender-- since we don't clearly fit into HT or sway.

[bluestskies]

There's more than one study that found that, for a while timing was in vogue and it was tested more than one time. Not super large sample sizes, not super respectable people testing it either (lots o people selling revolutionary methods of sex selection LOL), but when it comes to studies we have to take what we can get because so few respectable people are interested in studying it. :/

No one knows why male fertility issues and sperm quality seems to sway pink, but it has been shown in tons of studies (one of the best proven things) and it's all things that are totally dissimilar and unrelated, like biking and marathon running, certian careers like pesticide application/anesthesia/chemist, things that lower oxygen levels like deep sea divers and fighter pilots, smoking and marijuana use, certain medications and even diseases - all have been well demonstrated, anything that is harmful to sperm sways pink for reasons we can only guess at.

Success with IUI does vary by couple - is IVF any sort of option??? That way you could be assured you'd be able to put some babies on ice if you needed to.

Thank you so much for all the info! IVF is definitely an option, and we are considering it, but IUI's seemed to be easier on the body and maybe a good try because of no fertility struggles. That being said, even if 20% is our "best" odds of success per try, that's really not too good so we might just jump to IVF instead. Definitely in the early stages of discussing (amongst ourselves and will of course be talking with our doctors too) but the other factor is we will likely only be wanting 1 child, so we could use all 4 tries with an IUI (but that still technically leaves a 20% chance NONE will take?). If we changed our minds down the road and wanted a 2nd baby, he would be far enough removed from chemo to try naturally.

I can only hope for a good outcome. Part of me still wonders about going for IVF. I tried IVF twice and wasn't successful. I'm older at 42. The Dr. Thought that I would have a better chance with iui because I would be able to afford 4 iui cycles for the same price as 1 ivf. That would give me more eggs to work with. While, I am so torn because I really wish I can do ivf, I also must face reality. I reasoned that if I would do ivf, it would only be one more. And if it didn't work, then I would want to try for either gender. But since I don't expect an abundance of blasts, maybe one, I will end up with either a girl, or an boy, or nothing. And I want something. And if the blast is not a girl, I would try naturally. And since it has been harder at my age to get pregnant naturally, I decided to turn to medical intervention to help with that process. So I didn't feel like I could justify the cost in my case. My ivf cycles were terrible. I know that you weren't asking for all this info, I feel like I am not so entirely convinced, but am proceeding with iui currently. Maybe we should have a special subgroup for those of us going through iui, but still wishing for a particular gender-- since we don't clearly fit into HT or sway.

I wish you all the best with your IUI...please keep us posted!

[atomic sagebrush]

I can only hope for a good outcome. Part of me still wonders about going for IVF. I tried IVF twice and wasn't successful. I'm older at 42. The Dr. Thought that I would have a better chance with iui because I would be able to afford 4 iui cycles for the same price as 1 ivf. That would give me more eggs to work with. While, I am so torn because I really wish I can do ivf, I also must face reality. I reasoned that if I would do ivf, it would only be one more. And if it didn't work, then I would want to try for either gender. But since I don't expect an abundance of blasts, maybe one, I will end up with either a girl, or an boy, or nothing. And I want something. And if the blast is not a girl, I would try naturally. And since it has been harder at my age to get pregnant naturally, I decided to turn to medical intervention to help with that process. So I didn't feel like I could justify the cost in my case. My ivf cycles were terrible. I know that you weren't asking for all this info, I feel like I am not so entirely convinced, but am proceeding with iui currently. Maybe we should have a special subgroup for those of us going through iui, but still wishing for a particular gender-- since we don't clearly fit into HT or sway.

Keshet I am in agreement with your doctor and I feel that you'd be tossing money away at 42 on IVF unless you went with donor eggs. For success with IVF you need lots of eggs, for success with natural conception or IUI you only need one golden egg and it's just a better bet.

If you guys want to start a support thread I will sticky it for you!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so much for all the info! IVF is definitely an option, and we are considering it, but IUI's seemed to be easier on the body and maybe a good try because of no fertility struggles. That being said, even if 20% is our "best" odds of success per try, that's really not too good so we might just jump to IVF instead. Definitely in the early stages of discussing (amongst ourselves and will of course be talking with our doctors too) but the other factor is we will likely only be wanting 1 child, so we could use all 4 tries with an IUI (but that still technically leaves a 20% chance NONE will take?). If we changed our minds down the road and wanted a 2nd baby, he would be far enough removed from chemo to try naturally.



I wish you all the best with your IUI...please keep us posted!

Yes exactly - it was YOU who I was referring to IVF, not Keshet.

The odds of success with IUI are not cumulative - it doesn't work like "well this round I have 20%, next time that goes up to 40, then 60, then 80". You have 20% every time and then what do you do when you've used up all the vials??

I know it's super expensive though, but if you were to do IVF you could do it with ICSI and then be (hopefully) assured of some frosties - you would be able to get more than one baby per vial even, if it came down to that.

[Keshet]

Thank you Atomic. I needed to hear that. It has been hard for me to wrap my head around what the dr. Says with what I see on this website. There were so many stories that were positive and I kept hoping that I would be one of them. My journey has taken me a long time (3-4 years), because of cost, and time, and a resistant family. It has occupied my thoughts daily. I'm afraid that at this point, I will be so lucky to get pregnant at all. Atomic, thank you for your rational and thoughtful advice. I feel I stopped belonging on this website because I didn't know where I fit in anymore. And the regular infertility websites are overwhelming and make me feel worse and don't address my gender desire. But I still read this website several times a day--just to see what is going on. I've grown quite attached. I go for my check up today (day 10) to see if I have grown enough eggs and whether or not we proceed or cancel. It didn't look so good at the start of my cycle. I would love a support thread for iui/wishful thinking or for those of us who have moved on from both IVF and swaying and just want support. What do I do to start it?


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[atomic sagebrush]

bump this for me and I will either locate one (we do have a couple forums along these lines) or start a thread. You aren't alone here, there is a whole group of ladies in the same boat waiting for Goldie the Golden Egg to show up. Don't give up hope, it only takes ONE egg!!!