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    LH levels fluctuate throughout the day. Most women's LH will peak in the afternoon, so it's common to only get positives then and negatives in the morning and at night. My darkest OPKs are around 3pm and are MUCH lighter at other times of day. It sounds to me like you probably just had a short surge - though I'm not clear on whether you had 2 positive OPKs over 2 days or just one? What CD are you on currently and how long are your cycles usually?

    I would personally just BD every 4 days starting immediately, for the next 1-2 weeks, if I wanted to be sure I didn't miss O this month.

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    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Thank you maiden, i am on cd18, my cycles were 33 days but lately more like 30/31. I had only one pos opk but as it was dark urine/dehydrated i thought it was false...i tested 2 hours later and it was neg you see...so i got confused, still dont know if it was a pos, but all opks since have got lighter and lighter.
    Doyou think that was my O? I am so new to this.
    I am sorry if i am being a pain!!

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    Not a pain! Unfortunately, I have no way of know whether you Oed or not with any certainty. If you were temping and charting cervical mucous, cervical changes etc I could make a good guess. It is possible it was a false positive bc you only had one...how much lighter was the OPK 2 hours later? Was it almost positive or nowhere near?

    I think you should keep tesing with OPKs and if you want to TTC this cycle, keep BDing every 4 days.

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    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    WSS!!
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    Thank you maiden, I appreciate your reply

    The only "positive" I had is the one I posted the pic of on the 25th on this same thread, I was on cd15, take a look if you can please, on,page 1. The day before I had a negative but left it on the bathroom and an hour later was a lot darker but I dismissed it as it was neg at the beggining?

    Then from day 16th onwards I hardly had any cm in case that means anything. And all my opks have been neg since.

    Today I had some cm again. And today I had a neg again but we dtd anyway as we hadn't had any attempts this month I am on cd20, my cycles are about 30/31 days at the mo.

    Sorry for the long boring story
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    What's wss?
    And, what's a short surge, do you ovulate after one anyway? X

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSunshine View Post
    What's wss?
    And, what's a short surge, do you ovulate after one anyway? X
    What she said! I was agreeing with Maiden.

    A short surge just means that your body clears out the LH quickly so your tests are only positive a short time. Yes, you still ovulate. the LH surge is a message that your body is sending to itself and it gets the message even if is is one whisper vs. shouting the same thing again and again.
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    Okay, I understand it all now; I'm used to looking at charts where all the info is laid out graphically and I'm a bit slow trying to piece together the picture from words alone! So thank you for patiently explaining everything. It sounds like you had an almost positive on CD14 then a positive on CD15. Did the negative 2 hours later on CD15 still had a strong second line, just not dark enough to be positive? Like more than half as dark as the control line? Or was the test line very faint/blank?

    Along with CM drying up, I'd guess you Oed around CD16. However, it is still possible you didn't O then and will O soonish. Swaying is notorious for delaying O. I'd keep on BDing every 4 days just in case you didn't O already. You can keep testing with OPKs once daily (I'd test at the time of day you got your one true positive) if you want the insight, but if you find it stressful I'd drop testing.

    Btw, I find this stuff really interesting, not boring in the least! I also have a very short and also 'weak' surge (I don't get true positives), so I know how frustrating OPKs can be, especially when swaying. If you want to give OPKs a try again next month, I suggest a different, more sensitive brand of OPK that will hopefully give you some more advance warning and show gradual darkening as your surge approaches. Wondfos from amazon or CVS/Walgreens brand generic OPKs are the most sensitive to my knowledge. But if you decide to forget about OPKs and BD every 4 days to avoid stress, I think that's wise, too.

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Thanks you both so much, I am learning tons!

    Maiden, the pic of my two opks from day 15 are on this thread.
    My cd14 opk was neg, but looked positive a few hours after, hence me dismissing it....!

    I dtd'd on cd20, DH had FR'd 6 times up until cd15, then abstained (not on purpose, just kind of happened) until the dtd on cd20, if I miraculously had o'ed would that be a good or bad sway lol! What a mess for my first attempt huh!

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    I looked at those OPKs again. Definitely switch brands, those don't look sensitive enough for you.. I do think you probably Oed around CD16. The OPK on CD14 you described that later turned positive I would consider an almost positive.

    As for FR/abstain, I don't think that matters in terms on swaying. But if you Oed CD20 or later, which is always possible, then one attempt is great for pink.

    And while one attempt is certainly important for swaying pink, lately Ive been more and more convinced that diet is the by far the strongest factor. So much that doing the LE diet well and multiple attempts likely sways more than one attempt & eating a boy-friendly diet.

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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