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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Also you may be interested in reading this essay about how it's unlikely that pH levels in and of themselves are really swaying. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ph-pickle.html

    I've read so many of your essays and I love them. I really do.. But if pH doesn't matter, and timing doesn't matter.. Then what does? Isn't the diet supposed to sway blue because it changes your pH?? Are the Y sperm still proven to be faster?

    I'm at a loss now. /: I read the book and I was going to chart my ovulation by cm, temperature and ovulation kits. I was also going to change my diet to a saltier one with more potassium and red meats etc. I was also either going to do the egg white bad or preseed as well (I know you recommend preseed)

    But now with all these comments I wonder what I should even do at all anymore I want my son bad but how do you know how to make the odds greatest? I really don't wanna mess up.. I know when it comes down to it, it's up to Mother Nature.. I just ache for my little boy so badly..
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  2. #12
    It comes down to maternal condition.
    Atomic has written lots and lots about it I will find you a link.

    High nutrition = boy
    Low nutrition = girl

    I will find the link for you

    http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ete-index.html

    http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...-diet-faq.html
    Last edited by True Blue; June 4th, 2015 at 02:05 PM.
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  3. #13
    Prayed and swayed Boy . . .
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    Part of the reason I'm so confused is because I was at my absolutely physical prime when I conceived my daughter. I was training to compete in women's physics bodybuilding. So I was lifting daily sometimes twice a day with the proper vitamins nutrients and caloric intake of proteins fruits veggies fats carbs etc.

    I was not tracking ovulation at all. We just simple stopped protecting. We also conceived outside as we were camping in mid July so it was hot. So maybe it was the hubby's low sperm count???

    I just really don't know anymore everything seems so conflicting i don't know what to do.. And it's majorly stressing me out which is probably just adding/hindering to my swaying to be stressed out now ugh
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    TTC - since 10/15
    Clomid and IUI #1 - 12/16 was unsuccessful
    Clomid and IUI #2 - 1/10/17 SUCCESS! Currently carrying baby#2!!!
    Jeremiah 17:7 "But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in Him."

  5. #15
    If you were training excessively that sways pink. Was training 60mins or more a day?
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  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by True Blue View Post
    If you were training excessively that sways pink. Was training 60mins or more a day?
    Easily yes I trained very seriously. 3 hours a day full of resistance, circuit, lifting and cardio.. LOTS of lifting and circuits though. But also ran 3 miles a day. /: so maybe that aided in my girl..

    I def don't train like that anymore though so maybe that will help sway blue ??


    At this point I'm tempted to just go all in. I checked out your link and I was glued to my phone for a good hour lol so I'm thinking I'll just try everything. I'm only 23 so I'm not too worried about things like if my cm pH is too high with egg whites etc.

    Still nervous I'll have to wait till baby 3 or 4 for my baby boy.. Or if I'll get him at all..
    Rowan Mesler - 3/15
    TTC - since 10/15
    Clomid and IUI #1 - 12/16 was unsuccessful
    Clomid and IUI #2 - 1/10/17 SUCCESS! Currently carrying baby#2!!!
    Jeremiah 17:7 "But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in Him."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nann3r View Post
    I've read so many of your essays and I love them. I really do.. But if pH doesn't matter, and timing doesn't matter.. Then what does? Isn't the diet supposed to sway blue because it changes your pH?? Are the Y sperm still proven to be faster?

    I'm at a loss now. /: I read the book and I was going to chart my ovulation by cm, temperature and ovulation kits. I was also going to change my diet to a saltier one with more potassium and red meats etc. I was also either going to do the egg white bad or preseed as well (I know you recommend preseed)

    But now with all these comments I wonder what I should even do at all anymore I want my son bad but how do you know how to make the odds greatest? I really don't wanna mess up.. I know when it comes down to it, it's up to Mother Nature.. I just ache for my little boy so badly..
    No, the Y sperm are not faster, that idea has been totally debunked and is covered in one of those threads I mentioned.

    The straight truth is NO ONE KNOWS. We know that it happens because we have enough science to demonstrate that. And we know what ISN'T working, because it is biologically impossible or has been shown wrong in studies, or so many of us got opposites that it is just totally impossible for us to believe.

    All we have are theories. All I can tell you guys is that the timing, mineral, and pH theories do not add up with evidence and biology. The hormone idea, maternal condition, fertility, and maternal dominance ideas make much more sense but we don't know HOW those things work in the body.

    I really want the max. number of people's sways to work for them in a healthy way. That is my sole motivation.

    I know it requires something of a leap of faith but I think it is WAY better to do the things that make sense and let go of the things that just can't be true. It makes your life a lot easier and it makes your SWAY a lot easier too. Example, timing - you can track your CM, temp, OPK and so forth as much as you want and it is MEANINGLESS because as tons of us have experienced, your cycle is different every month and none of that stuff is reliable. The patterns change.

    The things that have worked for us are diet (higher protein, more nutrients, more healthy and animal fats), having more than one attempt (even if in line with SHettles, boosting fertility by using health/fertility improving supplements (without going overboard), husband stopping smoking, and weight training. WE are getting great results with those things. Equal to or better than the other sites and it takes us way less time to get pregnant and with WAY WAY less miscarriages.

    If the other things were what is swaying, we wouldn't get good results doing what we are doing. Some of the things we do are just polar opposites to the "old school" stuff. But we are getting good results. It has to be something else that is working!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nann3r View Post
    Part of the reason I'm so confused is because I was at my absolutely physical prime when I conceived my daughter. I was training to compete in women's physics bodybuilding. So I was lifting daily sometimes twice a day with the proper vitamins nutrients and caloric intake of proteins fruits veggies fats carbs etc.

    I was not tracking ovulation at all. We just simple stopped protecting. We also conceived outside as we were camping in mid July so it was hot. So maybe it was the hubby's low sperm count???

    I just really don't know anymore everything seems so conflicting i don't know what to do.. And it's majorly stressing me out which is probably just adding/hindering to my swaying to be stressed out now ugh
    Extreme exercise is among the strongest sway tactics we have for PINK. We have gotten extremely high numbers of girls with intense exercise.

    It is NEVER one thing though. Not because you were training a lot, not because it was July, it was a lot of things in concert and a bit of luck, besides.

    It is ok, we have all the time we need to get this figured out. Remember, it's always possible to hold off a month while we work through all this, ther'es no need to rush. It will be ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nann3r View Post
    Easily yes I trained very seriously. 3 hours a day full of resistance, circuit, lifting and cardio.. LOTS of lifting and circuits though. But also ran 3 miles a day. /: so maybe that aided in my girl..

    I def don't train like that anymore though so maybe that will help sway blue ??


    At this point I'm tempted to just go all in. I checked out your link and I was glued to my phone for a good hour lol so I'm thinking I'll just try everything. I'm only 23 so I'm not too worried about things like if my cm pH is too high with egg whites etc.

    Still nervous I'll have to wait till baby 3 or 4 for my baby boy.. Or if I'll get him at all..
    We have all the time in the world! Good news is you're probably more likely to get a boy at 23 than at my age that's for sure!

    The issue with the egg whites is that it may undermine your sway by killing too many sperm, and it also may cause serious infections that could possibly cause miscarriage or worse. There was a woman we know of who got a salmonella infection in her uterus that ate into her spine and infected her brain!! She had used egg whites for swaying a year before. We don't obviously know that it is connected to her swaying, but the real concern is that we know now that salmonella can infect a uterus and potentially cause death, so I just don't want anyone to take that chance no matter how remote.
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  10. #20
    So what does sway? If timing doesn't and pH doesn't that leaves a hardy and nutritious diet and supps? That's it?
    Rowan Mesler - 3/15
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    Clomid and IUI #1 - 12/16 was unsuccessful
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    Jeremiah 17:7 "But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in Him."

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