Lr or ole? Help my dh sway lol

[zillers]

Atasukina, it has to do with how big the downside is. True, OLE probably has side effects we haven't encountered yet, but the side effect we see most is manageable with some simple changes (e.g. take before bed every other day). LR' s side effects are potentially much more serious and strike unpredictably. Yes, I do think on balance OLE is safer for 2-3 months than LR for 2 weeks. For course that is my opinion, your risk assessment will be different than mine.

Hopper, LR can also impact blood pressure as well as heart rythm. I would not recommend taking two cardiac influencing supps at the same time. OLE or LR, but not both together.

ETA: OLE drops blood pressure, and the body's natural response to this is to gradually move you back to your baseline. However, if I then take away the thing that was holding my pressure down (stop OLE) I will have a slightly higher pressure for a bit until my body can readjust back down. LR raises blood pressure. So if I stop taking OLE and then go straight into taking LR I'm increasing my risk of side effects with the LR. I would have OLE off for a week at least before I started LR, longer if possible.

[Atsaukina1]

Thanks. I feel like I would want dh seeing a doc with all that. I'm a simple swayer. Well that's why I have 4 boys lol.

[mommymachine]

My DH took the liquid OLE everyday (well we missed days here and there) 3 times a day (again, we missed times) and he did it for 5ish months. We don't know what we are having yet. He took LR as well, AF-O. Atomic recommends starting LR the month before you attempt. So DH is on it from AF-O(or CD14), then a 2 week break, then from AF-O( or CD14) the month of your attempt.

ETA: DH is 27 and had no noticeable side effects. He was on LR longer then he should have been but Atomic does not recommend that.

[atomic sagebrush]

OLE is a substitute for cranberry.

LR is different and can be subbed with peppermint tea.

OLE is safe and well tolerated.

I can't give specific info without a sway plan and more info, but I do use any of those supps, cranberry OR OLE and LR or pep tea, depending on circumstances, for men at 38. I would go off of other things like his health and medical history. Point being all are ok for a guy at 38 depending on his overall health and fertility.

[atomic sagebrush]

So even taking lr for only 2 weeks you think has more issues than taking supp daily for 90 days? Atomic?
OK think I'll just have to stick to lowering ph and not testosterone. Maybe some peppermint tea?

Peppermint tea and soy milk are both ways to lower testosterone without using LR.

Some people are fine on LR. Others can't do it. I cannot give advice that applies to everyone when it comes to LR.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry to jump in here but just wondering if we are hoping to have our first attempt mid August (around 12th/13th) should I put DH on OLE now AND on LR when I get my AF before we try? Or is that too much?

Yes, OLE as soon as possible before sway, LR is one cycle in advance of first planned month. Hopper there should be a complete explanation and schedule of when to give your husband LR in your sway plan.

[hopper]

Yes, OLE as soon as possible before sway, LR is one cycle in advance of first planned month. Hopper there should be a complete explanation and schedule of when to give your husband LR in your sway plan.

Thanks Atomic. I have it there alright. I just don't have anything about OLE and was confused if I should ask him to take both or just one. Is LR more pink than OLE or which would you recommend? LR isn't contraindicated for DH.

ETA: I had planned on just putting DH on LR until OLE started popping up in sways, I dunno why but I got the impression you could use both for a sway.

[Atsaukina1]

OK so ole is for lowering ph like cranberry, antihistamine, and asparteme? And lr for lower testosterone like peppermint, soy? OK I couldn't find out what ole was for. I read something that it was to make healthier and good for sperm and then thought it was for a boy sway. Think I'll smtry other things for dh ph but it does have good stats. Good luck ladies

[zillers]

I don't think any of the info on the site says no LR and OLE together, I'm just super cautious. It can be so easy for folks to forget that natural doesn't equal safe! Don't let my doom and gloom scare you off Hopper, if you and atomic develop a plan that includes both based on your DH's history that's a lot different than my advice that is purposefully very cautious since I don't know anyone's specifics.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks Atomic. I have it there alright. I just don't have anything about OLE and was confused if I should ask him to take both or just one. Is LR more pink than OLE or which would you recommend? LR isn't contraindicated for DH.

ETA: I had planned on just putting DH on LR until OLE started popping up in sways, I dunno why but I got the impression you could use both for a sway.

Yes, you can use both OLE and LR.

OLE replaces cranberry. If he's using cranberry, I wouldn't have given him OLE. We can switch if you want to, I am still a bit skeptical of OLE because it is not that incredible in the HT results (seems to work for some, not for others, meaning about 50-50 it looks to me like) and thus far only swayers who are older or had sperm health issues were using it. So not a random sampling. I am fine with anyone using it but I am going to continue to recommend cranberry for husbands who are under 40 and have good sperm health until I see more reliable info on that.

LR can be replaced by pep tea.

everyone can use soy milk