Gender swaying diet question

[has2gentlemen]

I think she is trying to say that you are way too far UNDER the limits. You need a minimum of 40g protein, 25g fat and 1500 calories. Maximum is 50g protein, 60g fat and 1800 calories. Anything lower than the minimum is TOO LOW and is more likely to result in infertility than a girl or a boy.


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[needmorepink]

Thank you has2gentleman. After really thinking about it, that is what I was starting to think. It is not the LE because it is considered a starvation diet, even though I been doing better and reaching about 1,300 calories. It says you can go as low as 1,200 calories though? It is just so hard in the beginning trying to figure out if there is to much protein, fat, etc in that food I want to eat. Than when I read the whole part where I read protein and carbs together can sway the opposite direction... my second thought was "oh great, I am close to the recommended limits but not eating them right, and now it is messing up and I'm gonna have to start from scratch and these last 2 weeks are gonna be pointless."

[has2gentlemen]

1200-1500 calories is only if you plateau in weight loss at the 1500-1800. You should be starting at the 1500-1800 and only dropping lower temporarily if you aren't losing weight on the starting range since too low of calories can stop ovulation.

What AS told me was not to stress over the protein and carbs together, just eat two normal meals within the limits. Stressing over every little thing sways blue. The only way that carbs and protein together are going to "screw it up" are if you're eating huge thanksgiving style meals twice a day. If you absolutely HAVE to eat breakfast, then an all carb or all protein option is better than a mixed one, but for your other meals you need to focus on eating healthy and balanced in the limits, not starving yourself to meet a goal. If you go over one day and under the next, you're still doing okay. And as long as you're eating lower protein, fat, and calories than you were before- you're still swaying.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Sure. Thank you for your responses so far. If no one got pregnant with spermicide than I am guessing I must have ovulated after I thought I did, and thats how I ended up pregnant this month. Can you please explain how my diet is not LE diet? I did not go over the 40 g protein and 25-30 g fat, and stayed low calories. Way under actually. I guess I have alot to learn if it is not about staying in the recommended fat, protein, and calorie ranges. I am sorry if I sound dumb I am confused. I am gonna go back and read it again.

There is the odd person who has gotten pregnant on spermicide but it is such a rare occasion that I do not recommend it as a swaying tactic. I feel that any sway tactic that prevents pregnancy for 8 or 9 out of 10 people is useless because you would end up being on diet too long and stopping ovulation.

It is becuase you are not getting ENOUGH. The LE Diet is supposed to be a healthy prepregnancy diet meaning you have to continue getting enough nutrition for your body to stay healthy and fertile and also to get and stay pregnant with a healthy baby.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you has2gentleman. After really thinking about it, that is what I was starting to think. It is not the LE because it is considered a starvation diet, even though I been doing better and reaching about 1,300 calories. It says you can go as low as 1,200 calories though? It is just so hard in the beginning trying to figure out if there is to much protein, fat, etc in that food I want to eat. Than when I read the whole part where I read protein and carbs together can sway the opposite direction... my second thought was "oh great, I am close to the recommended limits but not eating them right, and now it is messing up and I'm gonna have to start from scratch and these last 2 weeks are gonna be pointless."

As long as you are moving in the direction of lower everything then you ARE SWAYING PINK. It doens't matter if you do everything exactly perfect.

I want very few people to drop to 1200 calories. The exceptions are: people who have more than 40 or 50 lbs to lose, people who are super petite and never eat more than 1500 cals and got boys doing that, people who have plateaued with weight to spare (and I mean a fair amount of weight, not a lb or two) or people who have PCOS/IR and never lose weight on more than 1200 cals. Everyone else needs to be at 1500-1800 range.

You will get used to knowing how much protein and fat is in stuff over time.

Re the protein + carbs, that is really mor for blue swayers to worry about. I want them to be sure to eat pro + carbs at every meal and snack but pink swayers are fine to eat both at meals. It's still a much different way of eating than what the blue swayers are doing and is about WAY more than just pro + carbs.

If you need to eat breakfast first thing in the morning then you may want to eat just protein or just carbs at breakfast alone. No other meal. Just breakfast. The other meals are fine to eat protein and carbs together.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and it's also equally acceptible to eat 3 meals a day, just push breakfast back till 11 am or so and then have 3 meals between then and bedtime. Both 2 and 3 meals are just fine, do what works better for you. Some find 2 meals is better for their needs, others 3. I always had 3.

[atomic sagebrush]

Here is the thing about trying to do what you did before...swaying isn't 100% so you could have done everything blue friendly and still been in the 20-25% that gets a girl even with a strong blue sway. AND/OR there may have been other things going on that were swaying that you just don't realize that counteracted the DTD every day. I just think it's smartest to do what has worked for most of the people, most of the time instead of looking at one thing in isolation because one thing may not always be what was even swaying, you know??

First cycle after a loss may sway a little pink but there are gobs of people on here who it didn't work for and I think it is best to focus on doing what has worked most consistently over time. The earlier the loss, the less it probably sways and I would not rely on it as a sway tactic.

Clomid is among the best tactics we have found and if you have some and are ok with using it, I would take it.

RE number of weeks on diet, 2-4 weeks has been poor results. STarts to improve with 6-8 weeks and then after 12 weeks it's been best results.

Alcohol and smoking does seem to sway pink. All different kinds of alcohol are seeming to help. Smoking was the only thing my husband did differently, he started smoking a pipe between when we got DS 4 and DD. (don't ask me why he's weird like that LOL)

[needmorepink]

Thank You for your input.

I think dd was just luck. I was however was eating less with her than I was with ds. Husband is convinced it was dtd everyday and the heat that gave us dd. He thinks he plays a huge role on what reaches the egg by his sperm count and habits.

Does it matter how many times or when you eat after 11 am, as long as you stay within recommended protein and fats? Like have a normal mean at 12 but than maybe have a snack like candy or something at 3pm and than have last mean 6/7pm and if you have calories left have a snack at 8/9? Or do you need to eat all your calories in only 2 meals?

If you drink diet coke, crystal light, cranberry juice, etc, do you have to count those calories and minerals?

I saw soy milk for dh is good. How long does it take to start Swaying? Like does he have to drink it everyday for it to sway or just on the days we attempt?

Does alcohol sway for the dh & dw? Or just dh? How much does he/us need to consume and how often for it to sway?

Maybe your husband taking up smoking is what also helped along with diet get your girl this time. Does e-ciggs sway? How much does a dh have to consume for it to even sway at all? Does smoking e-ciggs two times a day for a half hour to an hour sway or wouldn't that be enough? He does that on his way to and from work which adds up to that.

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to get any doubt or questions out before I go full force into this. I would love to do HT, but not looking good. He would need to get a part time job for the next 7 years. It would be worth it if it worked for us, but not so good if it didn't. Being in debt or having him work another part time job for the next 7 years for nothing in return would prolly push us over the edge. Wish I knew the chances of getting a girl embryo to transfer and it succeeding with only 2 attempts, but I know no one can answer that because it depends on each individual and what sperms decided to fertilize those eggs! No easy answers here!

[needmorepink]

I found the answer to the alcohol question. That it is good for both the dh & dw, and yes dw has to count calories in it. Was confused about this one since IG says alcohol is bad for dw. Still seeing if I can find the answers to my other questions.

[has2gentlemen]

I think the biggest thing is the long fast between your last meal and breakfast. You want your blood sugar to stay low in between meals. So lunch at 12, dinner at 7, and snack at 9 leaves you with a 15 hour fast, which is pretty good. Atomic has said 2 or 3 meals is fine, just delay the first meal as long as possible.

Yes, count drinks in your calories and nutrients. Diet drinks don't count for much so I don't usually stress over them, but juices are pretty high calorie.

I've got my DH drinking soy milk starting now, so a few months before our attempt. It has an effect on hormone levels, so he would need to drink it for a few weeks at least I'd think. But if he isn't willing to do it, it's not something that is a must. Your diet and exercise are the number one things, followed by the single attempt.

Alcohol does seem to sway for both. DW should stick to low nutrient options- white wines, light beers, spirits- 1 or 2 drinks a day up until the 2ww. DH can drink as he usually does.

I don't think anyone has done any research on e-cigs, but the reason regular cigarettes effect fertility has to do with the stimulant effect, so they probably do too. That's another thing you really don't need to stress over though. Swaying needs to fit your life, not completely change it. If he wants to keep smoking, that's fine. If he wants to quit or increase it, that's also fine.



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