Short luteal phase - vitex causing it?? Or losing too much weight?

[atomic sagebrush]

Or the cardio?? Been doing 70-75min a day which is a big change for me.

reduce to 60 5 times a week

[atomic sagebrush]

Also, again not meant as a rebuke but virtually ALL swayers should start off at LEAST at 1500-1800 calories. The % of people who should start off at 1200 is MINISCULE (as in like 1%) the only people who should start off that low are very petite people who may only eat 1500-1800 cals normally or those who have a lot of weight to spare. Start off higher than you think you need, ladies, and anyone exercising a lot, breastfeeding, or 5-10 and up needs to start off even higher, more like 1800-2000.

ANYONE exercising who starts off at 1200 cals you are being very naughty.

Honeybee you ahve not jeopardized your chances of conceiving, we just need to relax a bit and your body will get wiht the program.

[honeybee37]

Thanks so much atomic. I just add, when I was 12-1400kcal, this was def before I started the cardio. I think you're totally right and I'm sorry!! I have struggling with eating disorders on and off and think I maybe went about things the wrong way...
I will stop the vitex for sure though. Thanks everyone so much xx

[honeybee37]

I really think I've been over exercising which may have caused this... I read this today: Exercise induces two types of human luteal dysfunction: confirmation by urinary free progesterone. - PubMed - NCBI Has anyone else had this problem? I started off doing 60-65min but then my obsessive nature led me to go up to 70-75 instead, and pretty much daily instead of 5x a week. Just hoping that lowering my exercise will rectify this, if this is the cause....

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much atomic. I just add, when I was 12-1400kcal, this was def before I started the cardio. I think you're totally right and I'm sorry!! I have struggling with eating disorders on and off and think I maybe went about things the wrong way...
I will stop the vitex for sure though. Thanks everyone so much xx

You don't need to apologize, it's that I keep getting this type of post and I am wondering "am I not being proactive enough spreading the word about what I want people to do here?" So I'm being more emphatic of late and trying to put it in every thread where the topic comes up.

[atomic sagebrush]

I really think I've been over exercising which may have caused this... I read this today: Exercise induces two types of human luteal dysfunction: confirmation by urinary free progesterone. - PubMed - NCBI Has anyone else had this problem? I started off doing 60-65min but then my obsessive nature led me to go up to 70-75 instead, and pretty much daily instead of 5x a week. Just hoping that lowering my exercise will rectify this, if this is the cause....

It's not just that though. Diet, exercise, and vitex all can muck things up and so all three together is a triple whammy. So the way forward is to adjust on all these things but WITHOUT panicking and deciding "OMG I am now INFERTILE", you're not, we just have to turn the radio dial a teensy bit back in the other direction. People in this situation often decide they then have to boost their fertility in every conceivabe way and that is a good % of the people who have gotten blue opposites. The key is, not cutting back too far to start with, and then if you do, to GRADUALLY turn the dial back a bit.

[honeybee37]

You have definitely been proactive enough on the message. My problem is I was thin to start with and also, I'm impatient and tend to lose weight really quickly! Plus I wanted to do "everything possible" ha ha, typical boy mum, I reckon I am pretty much guaranteed to have a third boy!! I'm going to drop Vitex and cut back a bit on the exercise, also be a little more relaxed on the diet and make sure I'm getting enough kcal. Do you think 40g fat a day is ok if I'm exercising and eating about 17-1800 kcal?

[atomic sagebrush]

Haha apologies if OVERLY proactive, I feel like I've said it a billion times and people must be hearing something different.

40 g for sway or for health?? Fat is the shizz for restoring O so I do recommend at LEAST that much for you.

[3'sacharm]

Hmmm interesting... I have dropped my bmi to 20.4.... But keeping to limits of fat and protein (99% of the time) while doing 6 days per week of cardio thus allowing myself some additional calories to the 1500. Shall see what happens when I come off the pill...x

[honeybee37]

I meant 40g to try and get cycles in order whilst still swaying pink. I'd been sticking to 30g so maybe upping the fat to 40 could do the trick but not jeopardise my sway? I have had a couple of 'relaxed' days this weekend. Just felt like I was in need of more kcal and fat so I didn't count anything (still stayed veggie and no snacking)