Hmmm. Timing confusion.

[Hobbermittens]

Thanks ladies.

[gizmo77]

what does it mean when a sperm capacitates?

[zanacal]

I hope this helps - most of these scientific explanations just confuse me!

http://www.embryology.ch/anglais/dbe...ung/weg03.html

It's basically a process sperm have to go through before they're able to fertilise an egg and apparently it can take around 4 hours

[Hobbermittens]

I was wondering what that word meant, too. Thanks!

[gizmo77]

that was helpful thanks...and confusing too. ;-) but it makes me think now why its easier for some to get pregnant...there are constantly capicitating sperm at diff times..

[zanacal]

I *think* I'm right in saying that they can't capacitate until they get a sniff of the egg though - and until then they're all just hanging out together un-capacitated!!

[Flava]

Hobber- I don't think you should look when is O +12 just by CM! I could never do O+12 like that for sure because I have EWCM at least a day after O! This month I got 2 days ewcm after O.
I remember IG guru said you know when you O'd exactly because you get creamy cm 12 hours after O so you just watch that and count back 12 and you got O. Well maybe for some women is like that but she just didn't listen to us ( what a surprise..)when we told her lot's of us get ewcm way after O.

[Flava]

i also find this http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...-Thread/page73 very interesting!
I think it says that sperm capacitat when O accur or just right after O. Also lot's of other interesting stuff to read in it!

[Hobbermittens]

Hobber- I don't think you should look when is O +12 just by CM! I could never do O+12 like that for sure because I have EWCM at least a day after O! This month I got 2 days ewcm after O.
I remember IG guru said you know when you O'd exactly because you get creamy cm 12 hours after O so you just watch that and count back 12 and you got O. Well maybe for some women is like that but she just didn't listen to us ( what a surprise..)when we told her lot's of us get ewcm way after O.

I want to avoid O+12 at all costs. I think my youngest daughter may have been an O+12 by accident, but I won't ever know (she was an "oops" anyway). I think I might get creamy CM a day after O, but this last cycle I had EW after O for sure. It all confuses me!

[atomic sagebrush]

So if we DTD several times leading up to O, can we DTD through O and not have to worry about O+12? I mean, will the sperm from before have already gotten to the egg, or is it possible to have an O+12 if you DTD after you have already O'ed? This is confusing the heck out of me!

Yes, you do not have to worry about O+12 if you have already DTD several times already. The entire female repro tract is designed to conceive using sperm that was stored PRIOR to ovulation and those sperm already there and capacitated, have a very very great advantage over anything deposited at an O+12. Firstly because it's practically impossible to conceive with an O+12 due to the age of the egg (most eggs DO NOT live the full 24 hours or even close to it, so with O+12 the sperm need time to capacitate and reach the egg and most eggs are dead or in very bad shape at that point), secondly because the sperm that were already there on the scene have a huge head start and have almost certainly already fertilized the egg by that point, and finally because after ovulation, your body starts closing up shop and it makes it very difficult for those late-deposited sperm to even reach the egg at all anyway.

Please note, Tamara will disagree with me vehemently on this.