What did you do when you just wanted to give it all up..?

[mydaughter]

And Dynazyme, thank you so much! Your English looks perfect to me, I am from Germany :-) It was so good reading what you wrote, because I felt so recognized and you make me think my sway over. There are days I can handle cheats quite well, I can have a cookie in between meals and think- others do this all the time and got girls so you will not lower your chances by having this one cookie- other days I am just so strict with myself - and I can't get the anxiety out of me... I do know that I want to have another baby no mattes what gender

[mydaughter]

my son just woke up:-) I write you more tomorrow!! Thank you again so much for your words!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Go over just means tell me about what you're doing.

Stop trying to gain and then lose before O. That can delay ovulation. Just eat consistently and hold steady where you are in terms of weight. Do you see that if eating less before O is making you miserable, you need to stop doing that?? Especially since it is probably causing your O to be more delayed???

The egg will still be healthy, don't worry about that. We have seen people who get pregnant even after 3-6 months with no ovulation (due to PCOS) and have healthy babies.

Many of us have dropped the sodium restriction and we find it makes it much easier to stick to the diet. You would be able to have those things you've been wanting so badly and it will make you a lot happier and more satisfied.

Are you getting 40-50 g protein EVERY day and 30-60 g fat?

[mydaughter]

I am not sure to be honest, I don't count what I am taking in. So breakfast is as described always 250g curt (20% fat) and 200 g Yogurt (1,5%fat) and berries sweetened with canderel. And a coffee with skimmed milk( if I only have two meals that day I add a Toast ( or two) with marmalade or cream cheese. Then around 4 pm I have a salad with oil/vinegar dressing, some cheese, and nuts in it, and again a coffee with skimmed 1,5%milk, for dinner I usually have a regular amount of pasta/rice/couscous with some vegetables and parmesan cheese, and a glass of wine and some pieces of chocolate for desert. That's about it.

[atomic sagebrush]

The problem with not tracking is that over time you may end up cutting back too far and not getting enough. When you get too restrictive you end up having really bad cravings and being very miserable on the diet, plus delaying ovulation and not being healthy for pregnancy.

[maidentomother]

Definitely stop testing pH, CM, and using OPKs. Just BD every 4 days or every 3 at this point.

Your diet, in terms of what you actually eat, sounds fine - though I would absolutely track cals, fat and protein exactly for a few days just to check. I wouldn't add more cals or fat until you've counted a few days.

The yoyo dieting is a terrible idea and is likely why O is delayed. Do NOT eat more or less at different times in your cycle. Just hold steady all month long. Definitely stop reducing salt and instead eat as much as you like. It doesn't sway at all so you are depriving yourself for nothing.

Carbs are great for pink swayers unless you have PCOS.

I have been swaying without a hint of BFP for over 2 years now. It sucks, and i do feel quite discouraged. But I find the diet has become habit. I find it quite manageable. I don't stress about cheats and I often eat a bit extra before O due to strong cravings at that time.

[mydaughter]

Thank you again ladies for your caring advice!! Now I need your urgent help :-) My OPK is finally dark dark positiv this afternoon, I think I will O sometime tomorrow. Last bd was Sunday afternoon- should we dtd again today? Which would be every two days, my husband is not home tomorrow all day..or should I hope a 3 day cut- off will do? I increased my calories- of course I am afraid now that I messed it up with that..

[maidentomother]

I'd attempt tonight. You've been trying a while. But some sperm from Sunday should definitely still be around, just not that many.

[atomic sagebrush]

Agreed. You've been trying long enough, and I feel like when you're in this level of despair it's time to pull the trigger and get pregnant.

If a few days of eating slightly more calories could possibly sway, we'd only diet for a few days.

[mydaughter]

Atomic, what a beautiful Avatar!!
Here goes my update, my personal nightmare of the past 12 days.
Last time I wrote was a tuesday, bright positive OPK and you all said to dtd - we didn't because my husband was home too late, but we met wednesday night at 8pm on a wedding and I assumend I O'd allready and I enjoyed the meals, cake, gin tonic etc. I still had some EWCM but somehow I didn't recognize..alcohol? Then we came home in the morning at 5 am after tons of late night cake, fries and soup and I again don't know why but while we chatted about the wedding I had a whole bag of salted nuts/peanuts( I think more calories then I usually eat all day.... Then we had unprotected sex but my Dh pulled out, we slept 3 hours and we Dtd again - I had like 3 orgasms and he didn't pull out. I jumped up immediately and my brain began to recover and I did a OPK and it was still bright bright positive ( 48 hours at that time) and I was in shock since then- I couldn't believe how stupid I was after more then a year of swaying. I cried my eyes out, I just didn't want to be pregnant but I knew I was, because we hit O on the minute. I don't know what to learn from that- still trying to figure out, today I am 12 dpo and bfn and I couldn't be more relieved- hope af arrives in time in two days and it will all turn out being a lessen for life.. just wanted to share! I feel so crazy, my sister is n labor right now and I will be an aunt in a few hours