Diet and Exercise, 8 weeks or 12?

[atomic sagebrush]

re thyroid - while I do not yet have the data I'd like to in order to prove all this, there is a known correlation with thyroid and PCOS, and PCO-tendencies DO sway blue as we know, so I believe any link between thyroid issues and more boys conceived to be a connection with the PCO tendencies and not the thyroid in and of itself.

[atomic sagebrush]

number of times to eat - do what works better for you. Both 2 and 3 times are both equally allowed. I always did 3, first meal at around 10-11 (I'd get up very early tho) then around 4-5-6 and then a bedtime snack. Others prefer 2 meals a day but I'd die on that haha. I even have people go up to 4 meals a day if they need to. IT is still WAYYYY different

What I want everyone to remember is that there is NO magic to eating twice a day or eating a certian number of calories for a certain number of weeks - it is not any of those things that sway. It's that signal you send to your body that matters. So please don't get so focused on X number of meals or weeks on diet that you end up a slave to the system instead of the system working for you. You can still get a girl eating 4 times a day and with 6 weeks on diet, the importnat thing is that you're eating pinker than you WERE even if you never make it into the LE Diet limits.

[carmella_marie]

Hey, check out Popsugar fitness on Youtube, it's free and they have a lot of fun workouts on there. Some use weights but there are some straight dancy ones too.

Clarify for me "compressed FR" because I am not convinced anyone really knows what this is except me LOL I do want to point out that the ONLY reason I believe that has any better results than any other frequency pattern is just a fluke of statistics. I"m not at all sure it's worth the trouble to do it and it does really cut odds of conception.

Re diet - just do a very relaxed, vegetarian diet instead for part of that time. Don't lose weight during that time. REmember, there is no magic to LE Diet in and of itself, it's jsut that people wanted A DIET to follow. It's absolutely fine to just do a more relaxed form of LE - vegetarian, more protein and fat from vegetable sources, lower protein and fat, but without cutting calories. If you want to TTC more like 8-10 weeks that is fine!! It's really just the folks who did diet 2-4 weeks that did not see results with it.

For "compressed frequent release" when we got my daughter I had my hubby release outside me and then did our attempt (one attempt at +OPK) basically right after, with less than 30 minutes between the 2. He also had released that morning and the night before (all outside me) we are young and fertile LOL. True FR for 7-10 days is too stressful for us and I don't think it's worth the hassle. I don't know if this CFR helped much in getting our girl but my husband claims he feels like there's "less" when we did it that way.

Diet: I said PCOS diet because I am more following the PCOS diet more than traditional LE diet: eating some full fat dairy, egg whites, and always whole grain bread, but not being crazy about it. I am avoiding all the sugary junk food a lot of people do on LE diet--I did that when I got my son and I felt terrible on that diet as I think I have PCOS tendencies. But I am not being strict about it, just trying to be mostly vegetarian and do 2 meals and fasting in between. Not really counting cals but just watching the scale instead.

[carmella_marie]

re thyroid - while I do not yet have the data I'd like to in order to prove all this, there is a known correlation with thyroid and PCOS, and PCO-tendencies DO sway blue as we know, so I believe any link between thyroid issues and more boys conceived to be a connection with the PCO tendencies and not the thyroid in and of itself.

Very interesting!

[atomic sagebrush]

For "compressed frequent release" when we got my daughter I had my hubby release outside me and then did our attempt (one attempt at +OPK) basically right after, with less than 30 minutes between the 2. He also had released that morning and the night before (all outside me) we are young and fertile LOL. True FR for 7-10 days is too stressful for us and I don't think it's worth the hassle. I don't know if this CFR helped much in getting our girl but my husband claims he feels like there's "less" when we did it that way.

Diet: I said PCOS diet because I am more following the PCOS diet more than traditional LE diet: eating some full fat dairy, egg whites, and always whole grain bread, but not being crazy about it. I am avoiding all the sugary junk food a lot of people do on LE diet--I did that when I got my son and I felt terrible on that diet as I think I have PCOS tendencies. But I am not being strict about it, just trying to be mostly vegetarian and do 2 meals and fasting in between. Not really counting cals but just watching the scale instead.

Ok that's hurry up FR, not compressed. Plus a little extra Compressed FR is supposed to be 2-3 releases 2-3 days in a row before one attempt and that one attempt should be second batch of day and NOT a hurry up FR.

I agree with what you're doing on diet. My point is that if you are scared of losing too much weight (which is a very real risk on PCO-type diet otherwise I'd use them for everyone!) then the solution is for part of that time, to do a more relaxed version of diet where you focus more on just going vegetarian and not as much on the limits and stuff.

[carmella_marie]

Ok that's hurry up FR, not compressed. Plus a little extra Compressed FR is supposed to be 2-3 releases 2-3 days in a row before one attempt and that one attempt should be second batch of day and NOT a hurry up FR.

I agree with what you're doing on diet. My point is that if you are scared of losing too much weight (which is a very real risk on PCO-type diet otherwise I'd use them for everyone!) then the solution is for part of that time, to do a more relaxed version of diet where you focus more on just going vegetarian and not as much on the limits and stuff.

hurry up FR, gotcha. Well it worked!

[atomic sagebrush]

THe hurry up FR of all the patterns is really a nice, easy one to do.

[carmella_marie]

Ugh.
SO I got my period today. I thought I had a few more weeks since my cycles used to be long (40-50 days) but this last month was 28 days exactly.
I have only been on the diet 1 week and just started cardio today.
If my cycles continue to be 28 days that means I can attempt in 6 weeks but that would only give me 7 weeks on diet and 6 weeks of cardio. I could wait another cycle so I'd be 11 weeks on diet and 10 weeks of cardio...
But I really dislike the diet and cardio, and I know I'll start to cheat. Would it be better to do 6-7 weeks very strict or 10-12 weeks swaying more relaxed?

[atomic sagebrush]

I do not have the data to say for sure, I'm sorry.

What I DO know is that most of the 12 week + ladies (and esp. the ones who'd been on 20 weeks or more) were more relaxed over time and still got girls.

[carmella_marie]

thanks atomic!