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    maxim i havent been able to keep up with you on the 2ww thread..what opk's are you using and i will say this is why they want you temping on top of the OPK..it seems your OPK didnt pick it up but i can see in your temps that you ovulated... Those flashing smileys on the digitals are your bodies way of saying its trying to increase your estrogen and NOW it makes sense why you get SO MANY flashing smileys...Your temps btw went 1 full degree higher than your lowest recorded which is what you are looking for in a post O temp so i can 100% believe you ovulated. Thyroid would not include estrogen. That would be a hormone panel. However they said my hormone panel was normal and then retracted that and said despite the numbers appearing normal it must not have been *MY* normal because i wasnt getting pregnant...so even if they tested your estrogen and it was 'normal' the fact you have a thin lining suggests your body does not have enough.
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    Burakoam!!! How are you? I sent you a PM earlier, hope you're doing great and loving life with 4 little ladies!

    I am temping and I changed from the purple CB (with flashy smiles) to the pink one with just the circle/smiley, per you and Cosmo's suggestion. I'm also using the easy@home cheapies, and testing 2-3 times per day. Neither one ever registered a positive! It's really very strange!!

    So should I ask the OB to test estrogen? I'm confused what you can do at this point to help fix that...

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    i am exhausted and meant to reply but didnt, i am sorry. first few weeks has been a struggle of me trying to absorb literally everything so ive been very forgetful in general.

    https://www.fertilityauthority.com/b...uterine-lining

    I would say maybe you have swayed pink so hard it has worked against you in the form of not getting pregnant..which happens when you are doing a sway to decrease your over all fertility..i believe low uterine lining is really common in pink moms that sway (with no evidence and no numbers, this is what i am remembering on a big lack of sleep so someone correct me if i am wrong!)

    I remember you were pretty active when we last spoke and cutting back a little as some of it was possibly going to sway blue for you..do you have a 'desk job'? as they say that can contribute to a lack of blood flow to the uterus as well.. If none of that applies id say its diet related not excersise related and its a matter of incorporating some foods in to help. for someone who already is very pink friendly like me or you some red meat should be perfectly fine to increase your iron to help with blood flow related issues. Remember when you get scared of swaying blue with eating a healthier diet please that if you cant GET pregnant you have no chance at a 3rd girl or a boy so better to at least up the odds of conception and hope the rest of your sway was enough. I second atomic on a prenatal...i really dont think they sway that strongly blue, especially since you have two previous girls as i had two previous girls Max and started a prental 7 months before getting pregnant with DD3 and took it religiously..still dd3, and again because prenatal was a strong part of my blue sway, and still DD4 lol...just dont take it in excess as its the excess in vitamins and minerals that sways blue. Atomic suggested maybe only taking it 3 days a week..that seems like a good compromise so you dont feel you swing too blue with that!

    Pink swayers...has soy been ruled out as bad for pink and blue? if its pink friendly max and others chime in i would think soy milk would be a good way to get some estrogen from an outside source to maybe help..

    also i think chocolate has the same affect and lots of people use it in their pink sways for that reason? load up on chocolate max..but not the healthy dark stuff..you want the unhealthy chocolate lol..will also be good at spiking blood sugars when stable blood sugars sway blue and the up and down sugars sway pink

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    Please do not apologize...you have much more important things going on! Thanks for your reply!!

    To answer your questions, yes, I am very active typically. I used to be a marathon runner years ago, but have been doing weights classes 2-3 times a week. I've done the weights classes for years, including the times that I conceived both DD's. I have been trying to go lower on weights and also switch more to yoga, etc., but I'm naturally very lean and need the weights to not look "skinny". Should I be switching that up? I think atomic said that I was fine to do a mix of weights, barre and yoga classes 2-3 times per week.

    I also do work a desk job. I work in finance and have a very stressful day, sometimes don't get up more than 1-2 times the entire day except to go to the bathroom. I'm positive this doesn't help!

    I'm curious to see about the soy milk, but definitely will be adding in more chocolate (yay!). I don't eat red meat, but I do eat the other protein sources listed in the article (beans, lentils, etc.). Anything else I should be adding?

    I received a call from my OB this afternoon just as I was picking up my girls from school (i.e., terrible timing). He said that I do have a cyst on my left ovary that he wants to monitor. If I don't end up pregnant this cycle, he would like for me to come in and have a saline sono hystegram to see if my tubes are blocked. He also recommended that we try clomid, which struck me as odd given that it thins out the lining. I don't know the exact measurement of my lining - should I call and ask??

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    I would call and ask and it's possible because you say it is an OB and not a reproductive endocrinologist that he isn't as aware that he could prescribe femara which would be better for someone with a thin lining vs clomid. However one cycle of clomid may not hurt you, as my lining was thinner (had hardly and bleeding with my periods at all) and my estrogen was supposedly 'normal' yet I wasn't getting pregnant.. and 1 cycle of clomid gave me DD3. You and I continue to have lots in common so just know that 4 daughters in I'd say you at least are in the right track for more pink lol

    I would do the sono, personally
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    Good morning! I just called the OB and my uterine lining measured 5.6mm. I was either 1 or 3 dpo at that time (still unsure when I O'd since I never got a positive opk). He also said to call when I get AF and we will book the u/s 10 days out. What do you think of that measurement??

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    My fertility clinic always wants to see over at least 7mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin2014 View Post
    My fertility clinic always wants to see over at least 7mm

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    Aughhhh, okay...thanks! Do you know what I can do? He didn't seem to want to give me any hormones at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximbella View Post
    Burakoam!!! How are you? I sent you a PM earlier, hope you're doing great and loving life with 4 little ladies!

    I am temping and I changed from the purple CB (with flashy smiles) to the pink one with just the circle/smiley, per you and Cosmo's suggestion. I'm also using the easy@home cheapies, and testing 2-3 times per day. Neither one ever registered a positive! It's really very strange!!

    So should I ask the OB to test estrogen? I'm confused what you can do at this point to help fix that...
    Here's the thing though. You don't totally know what caused this, if it was just a one off, or an ongoing problem. I don't even think you changed your diet that dramatically and have really not done anything very different overall (since we were doing a hurry up sway) I don't want you to now jump to the conclusion that this is something you now need to FIX since it may be just a weird result of stressing over TTC.

    DO NOT drink a bunch of soy milk. Regardless of how it sways. It is a phytoestrogen, it's not like the estrogen your body makes and actually competes with your body's estrogen for the estrogen receptors (in effect, lowering your estrogen even more). Stay away from the stuff.
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    thanks for the input atomic! i couldnt remember what made the soy milk bad just that at one point people did use it alot for pink but then alot of people stopped lol...So there you go maxim..no soy, but chocolate should be okay and as an avid chocolate eater (you should see the box of chocolate doughnuts ive gone through in 2 days.. /shame) it can only help. Remember the dark chocolate is blue you want the regular milk chocolate. Even if it was a one time thing as far as your lining goes this couldnt hurt and may help..i do think because you said it was a potential problem with one of your pregnancies that it wasnt a one time thing though. you dont need hormones at this point, try the natural stuff first place as it will be better for your body and overall being...estrogen in supplement form can have nasty side effects. Including increasing your risk of certain kinds of cancers. I think in the case of a thin lining and fertility they would prescribe you progesterone first since sometimes to kick start your natural estrogen production all you gotta do is kick it out of balance by increasing progesterone and its considered 'safer' than prescription estrogen.
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