Please give me feedback on my plan....

[atomic sagebrush]

Very nice IG style sway. I will throw my opinion out and you may take it or leave it.

1)Longer abstinence is better - 7 days is bare minimum. Altho abstinence will not help you get a BFP quickly!

2)I do not like Sudafed and prefer people take antihistamines such as Benadryl, Zyrtec, or both. Sudafed has been linked to strokes in young women, particularly those taking blood thinners like cranberry.

3)I like RepHresh WAY better with a cutoff because it continues to work for 3 days afterwards and combines with whatever it touches. Whereas with Replens and Acijel, they get diluted by whatever comes into contact with them so you ahve to keep checking your pH all the time. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...s-and-RepHresh You can also use BOTH RepHresh and Acijel/Sylk if you like, just use the RepHresh a day or two in advance of your attempt and then a dime of Acijel or Sylk an hour before.

4)That having been said, using TOO many douches, jellies, etc will reduce your odds of pregnancy too far.

5)The supps are of course at your discretion but I did want to mention the idea (Trivers Willard Hypothesis) that high nutrient intake sways BLUE, not pink. Taking Vit C, Vit E, Cranberry, even the Cal and Mag - those are all nutrients that your body takes note of and ~may~ undo some of the good you do by following a strict diet. The folic is of course non-negotiable and everyone needs to take that.

6)Are you doing anything to lower your blood sugar, like skipping breakfast? Have you lost at least a little weight??

7)I personally believe tap water to be perfectly fine for a sway.http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...-pink-and-blue

8)After DTD you are not going to be able to GET CM to test because the semen will be everywhere. Please just test the stuff that is at the entrance to the vjj because that's what you need to know about anyway.

[atomic sagebrush]

someone on here (forget who now) tested a small amount of RepHresh lining the inside of a shot glass and added a "deposit" to it to see how fast the pH would be lowered, and from what I remember it was VERY fast, within minutes! Even within 30 seconds or so the pH was far lower so it would probably react faster than douching/other gels especially if those have to be mixed in to work

I haven't spoken to anyone who had a pH raise from it, but haven't tested my own pH with it either, mainly because I don't have much CM. I figure that if it didn't work as designed it wouldn't be on sale as it wouldn't work - the whole reason it is desirable to those with infections and things (i.e. not swayers) is because it keeps pH down so if it didn't do that they wouldn't buy it. As long as you don't use it for the first time ever right at your attempt it wouldn't be a problem as that might be a shock to the body which might make it react unexpectedly. Personally I'll have been using RepHresh for about a week before this attempt and I do like the fact that it means I don't have to stress about the pH and know that the RepHresh will keep on working where douches won't!

Some people on other sites really hate RepHresh for reasons that are not entirely clear to me. Acijel and Replens are both notorious for causing people's pH to spike. Whereas RepHresh is designed to react to continue lowering pH for up to 3 days afterwards and will react with everything it touches including additional CM and semen, to lower the pH to 4.5-5. Acijel and Replens don't do that, they are just a big burst of low pH that then can get diluted over the course of time and stop working. And since some people's bodies don't like the Acijel/Replens, they start to make a lot of CM to try and wash it away, hence the pH spike that people sometimes experience.

Plus, never underestimate the effect of sway stress. It can totally raise your testosterone in a big way, so even if you have the "perfect" sway, you can undermine it if your testosterone goes through the roof. Sometimes in swaying, it is best to give up the illusion of control (because at the end of the day NONE of us have control with swaying anyway) that is embodied in pH strips, temping, moon phases, etc and just go for it because the more control-freaky you become, the higher your T will go.

[HopeandDreamG]

My PH seems to stay at 5.7. Will continue to take the acidophilus see if that makes any difference. I've been taking one a day. Do you recommend 2 a day as I've seen on other sites? Will use acigel etc. as experiment then wait to actual time of attempt that makes sense.
Yes I am doing the IG diet and need to lose weight and CAN lose weight. It will be intersting to see how that effect PH..I'll keep track. Haven't tried the antihistimine yet. Have it on hand was going to use it an hour before attempt. Suppose I can try it after I ovulate this cycle to see what happens.

[HopeandDreamG]

Oh wait..just saw your posts above. When I have alittle more time later today I will look at your ideas and possibly refine my plan. The kids I already have need my attention!!! I think people go the replens/acigel route bc they believe if you use rephresh you CANNOT use anything else. You are saying that you can as long as you use rephresh 3 days before? Thanks for your help... Also looks like you prefer cutoff to O+. Is that accurate? And do you recommend any supps?

[atomic sagebrush]

My PH seems to stay at 5.7. Will continue to take the acidophilus see if that makes any difference. I've been taking one a day. Do you recommend 2 a day as I've seen on other sites? Will use acigel etc. as experiment then wait to actual time of attempt that makes sense.
Yes I am doing the IG diet and need to lose weight and CAN lose weight. It will be intersting to see how that effect PH..I'll keep track. Haven't tried the antihistimine yet. Have it on hand was going to use it an hour before attempt. Suppose I can try it after I ovulate this cycle to see what happens.

Yes that's fine, 2 a day.

The antihistamine may not tell you anything except at O, because if there's no CM, there's nothing to dry up.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh wait..just saw your posts above. When I have alittle more time later today I will look at your ideas and possibly refine my plan. The kids I already have need my attention!!! I think people go the replens/acigel route bc they believe if you use rephresh you CANNOT use anything else. You are saying that you can as long as you use rephresh 3 days before? Thanks for your help... Also looks like you prefer cutoff to O+. Is that accurate? And do you recommend any supps?

We tested RepHresh with Acijel and Sylk and found that they continued working just fine when used together. The only combos I would avoid is RepHresh with douche, because Rephresh is designed to keep pH at 4.5-5 so it reacts with anything super low in pH and will make the pH of the lime douche rise (maybe that's why they don't like it on IG, because they are lime-douche-fanatics over there.) and also anything with Preseed - don't use Preseed with any of these jels, it's bad for sperm.

Yes, I am not a fan of O+12 at all because it's very difficult to get pg that way, and the amount of obsession and dedication it takes to figure out is very much the kind of thing that raises people's testosterone levels through the roof.

[HopeandDreamG]

I will take zyrtec instead of sudafed. Will take 2 acidophilus instead of one. Will have dh abstain longer then 7 days. (do you believe abstinence is better then frequent?) Will order rephresh to test it out... Already looked on amazon does it only come in prefilled applicators?
A timing question for you: I am planning my cutoff (the Babydust way) my fade in pattern hasn't been so predicitve though. Last 2 cycles I got +digital on CD 14, this cycle CD15. I want to DTD the day before the smiley. If I miss it and smiley shows up before I DTD...Is it too close if I DTD the same day as a smiley if I catch it super early?

[HopeandDreamG]

On PL we had a thread of pics of fade in patterns. I can post my recent ones and next month I can post as I go and get some feedback. Would be great for me and I think others would benefit too to get a real visual!

[atomic sagebrush]

On PL we had a thread of pics of fade in patterns. I can post my recent ones and next month I can post as I go and get some feedback. Would be great for me and I think others would benefit too to get a real visual!

That would be FANTASTIC!!! Great idea! I'm assuming you would start a new thread and once you do I will sticky it and also add it to the new FAQ thread. Thanks for thinking of it!

[atomic sagebrush]

I will take zyrtec instead of sudafed. Will take 2 acidophilus instead of one. Will have dh abstain longer then 7 days. (do you believe abstinence is better then frequent?) Will order rephresh to test it out... Already looked on amazon does it only come in prefilled applicators?
A timing question for you: I am planning my cutoff (the Babydust way) my fade in pattern hasn't been so predicitve though. Last 2 cycles I got +digital on CD 14, this cycle CD15. I want to DTD the day before the smiley. If I miss it and smiley shows up before I DTD...Is it too close if I DTD the same day as a smiley if I catch it super early?

I think abstinence and FR are both pretty good at lowering sperm count. Abstain may be slightly "better" at lowering sperm count, because it also makes sperm lower in quality so you have less sperm and worse sperm. On the other hand, FR has the added benefit of keeping sperm fresh and healthy and you will prob. get pg a lot quicker with FR as opposed to abstain. I don't like or advise abstinence for anyone where the DH is over 35 because there may be a higher risk of birth defects (slightly higher - no one need panic if you've already gotten pg with abstain, it's just erring on the conservative side.)

When choosing abstain or FR you have to take into consideration your husband's past history with BD. Some guys can BD or release on their own every single day and conceive boys, while others can't do it but once-twice a week with a lot of coaxing. So for the guys who habitually DTD every day without fail and still are able to father tiny blue armies, it may be better to have them try abstaining because in order to do more frequent release than they already do, it requires almost a super human effort (check out Zanacal's sway because her husband is a machine!!!) And a guy who simply can't do it more than once or twice a week, obviously CAN'T do frequent and so you have a choice between doing abstain or else compressed FR. The prob with abstain for guys with lower sex drive is they may not be producing tons of sperm to begin with and so abstain for them might just reduce the odds of pg too far. (Anyone who has girl(s) and is swaying for another girl, your husband may fall into this category, since they may have lower testosterone/lower sperm count to begin with.)

I personally think FR works best for guys who usually DTD every other day or two and any guy over 35 AND couples who are doing a lot of other things to sway that kill off sperm like douching, jellies, etc. I feel that ~most~ dads of blue tend to fall into that category and so as a general rule I think FR gets the best results for the least amount of making it impossible to conceive.