What is wrong with blue swayers??

[Throwaway_panther]

So the overall success rate (so since 2011) is 56%. That's still slightly above the general population ratio of boys to girls. Being very liberal, the gender ratio is 52% for boys; a more accepted number would put boy births at .502 (compared to girls at 49.7) The last two years had MUCH less swayers for blue interestingly.

I was having trouble tracking down the girl sway results from 2011-2014, but the total girl success rate from 2015 until now is 70%. That is very hard to critique -- those are phenomenal results. So it's hard to argue against swaying not doing SOMETHING, even though that 56% isn't as comforting as 70%. I might have some crackpot theories to the difference (ex: some studies say boy births drop from war, etc., and most of the world is dealing with some level of political stress right now -- maybe external factors are explaining the drop the last two years?).

Either way, noticing two sways is what's standing out to you. There are still more successes than opposites so far this year.

[Katie.Z]

Sounds like an amazing sway, and guess what you will never look back and say you didn’t try. Everything is meant to be this way. My grandmother has three daughters and their last and youngest is the one that calls for them
Everyday and she’s just the best person in the universe. Thank you for your reply LMSM

[Samish]

Thank you for the stats Throwaway_panther

This really concerns me now! Boy sways stats seems to be only 2-3% above the non sways boy/girl birth!

Most of the swaying science has already been debunked. We mainly focus on Diet, exercise and supplements here. And now even this seems to be not working.

I hope we all waiting to know genders may get our boys.

[Tali.kah]

I agree- we need the blue swAyers to be more active! It'll provide each of us support and improve our stats so that we have accurate numbers for what's working and what isn't. Failed sway or successful- these should all be shared

[atomic sagebrush]

You can't go off the due date groups. They are too small a sample and it's all very random since many people don't post in there.

https://genderdreaming.com/forum/try...s-numbers.html

https://genderdreaming.com/forum/add...y-results.html

https://genderdreaming.com/forum/try...lue-sways.html

[atomic sagebrush]

I've noticed this too. It's very difficult as a blue swayer as there is so few of us, many of who are also very private and not very active in the forums. Many of those in the due date groups who have posted sways seem to have done great jobs, many close to textbook and still it has not gone their way. In addition I have not seen the "swayed blue in 2017 and are having" thread updated recently and that seems to be the only place where we can see the results of some of the more quiet blue swayers. It makes me momentarily doubt the science of swaying, however, I know the pink sway results look amazing so having so many blue sway opposites must just be coincidence. I guess even with a great blue sway we many only be able to shift the odds to 65-35.

??? I just updated adding nann's sway, if you guys know of sways that are missing by all means let me know.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi

I randomly checked 2 threads in due date sub forum for ladies who are due for sep/Oct/Nov2017 and Dec2017/Jan/feb2018

All the blue swayers as indexed on first page are either getting opposites or they are team green. Not a single successful sway so far.

Here I am!! Worried again

I think you need to look at this link instead. https://genderdreaming.com/forum/add...y-results.html

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you for the stats Throwaway_panther

This really concerns me now! Boy sways stats seems to be only 2-3% above the non sways boy/girl birth!

Most of the swaying science has already been debunked. We mainly focus on Diet, exercise and supplements here. And now even this seems to be not working.

I hope we all waiting to know genders may get our boys.

Please read the following link https://genderdreaming.com/forum/try...s-numbers.html

[atomic sagebrush]

So the overall success rate (so since 2011) is 56%. That's still slightly above the general population ratio of boys to girls. Being very liberal, the gender ratio is 52% for boys; a more accepted number would put boy births at .502 (compared to girls at 49.7) The last two years had MUCH less swayers for blue interestingly.

I was having trouble tracking down the girl sway results from 2011-2014, but the total girl success rate from 2015 until now is 70%. That is very hard to critique -- those are phenomenal results. So it's hard to argue against swaying not doing SOMETHING, even though that 56% isn't as comforting as 70%. I might have some crackpot theories to the difference (ex: some studies say boy births drop from war, etc., and most of the world is dealing with some level of political stress right now -- maybe external factors are explaining the drop the last two years?).

Either way, noticing two sways is what's standing out to you. There are still more successes than opposites so far this year.

The thing is, and Panther, we've already been through all this so I'm just using your post as a jumping off point and not as an engagement, just so you understand that -

During the early years of the site, the boys were doing great and the girls were in the toilet. We had 2 whole years where blue sways (and there were a LOT of results too! way more than we've had lately) were 70-80% range. and at the same time pink sways were 56% and then improved as we changed just a couple things...and the things we changed for pink were BASED on the excellent results for blue!! That's right, we improved pink sways because of things we learned because blue sways were working so well!

And at the same time for blue, we never changed anything. We got 70-80% (with bigger sample sizes) for 2 years doing exactly what we're doing right now and we kept doing that. So while I suppose that could have been just sheer luck, considering that most of our sway opposites have been in people who didn't want to do certain elements of the sway or couldn't, and also given that it matches up exactly with what those of us who have tons of boys do naturally, I still believe in it. We have a person who got 3 boys in a row with swaying. We have people who swayed for a boy and turned around and then swayed for a girl (successfully) and people who swayed for a girl and then turned around and got a boy (also successfully). We have people who got boys after 4 and 5 girls.

I have changed things to omit the wheatgrass, the almond milk, and EPO. We have to wait and see if anything changes. I am not going to change anything else beyond what I've already done until I feel we've given all this a fair shake. I think we're right, I think that what we are doing here is correct and we've had some unlucky breaks and yes, I'll say it, some people who did not necessarily follow through, some who really weren't that into swaying (I had a fair number of gals particularly in 2015 who fell into this category), some who came to us already pregnant, and some who had other issues that were out of their control.

I still believe firmly that it's the unexplained infertility (the people who just don't get pregnant and no one knows why), the people doing at home insemination, the DHs smoking, guys who are working out a lot, and husbands that are seriously ill and on medication that have affected our results negatively. The problem is that when we have a small group, a handful of results can change things and I completely and totally believe that if we did this diet in a population of people who didn't have any of these issues the results would be very different. And I also believe that every one of these couples gave themselves a better chance than they'd have had if they hadn't swayed.

Some of these things we cannot change and I refuse to start cherry picking and eliminate these people from the statistics because I think that what we're doing here is more important than numbers on a piece of paper. I don't want to cut anyone loose and tell them "well, sorry I can't help you, you'll make my stats look bad" because of something that their husband does or a disease that he has that they can't even control or that they can't get pregnant easily or they have to use a turkey baster to get pregnant. It is not their faults and I refuse to create this environment of fear and shame where people lie to me to trick me into making them a sway plan, and lie about their sways just to get emotional support. You know what happens on other sites when a couple can't do all the "sway factors" or they have to drop some along the way? They are told their sways will fail (which is DEVASTATING for a blue swayer to hear because it creates self-doubt that can cause sways to fail!) and they are not included in the stats. If a husband won't sway, the results are not included in the stats. Period. This alters the results to make swaying look more effective than it really is because they simply eliminate the people who are most likely to have an opposite beforehand.

I don't care if our results aren't good enough for some. They are inclusive of everyone and we all swayed and all deserve to have our sways included in the results. I would much rather have our results include everyone and end up with lower success rates than for me to pick and choose We're doing more here than me trying to prove some stupid theory correct - because we can't prove it here anyway. In order to do that, we would have to have a large group of randomly selected people who have never had children and have them test it to know. And then we'd have to repeat that several times to verify it. What we are doing here is about health, safety, sanity, conception in a reasonable amount of time, friendship and support. Those things come first and

Honestly I don't want ANYONE to use our numbers to decide whether or not to sway. I want you to go off what makes SENSE to you. And if it makes sense that drinking baking soda juice and eating having one attempt at O makes sense to you (given that we have gotten 70% and up girls doing that) then there are other sites out there. I'm not trying to talk anyone into swaying this way at all, I put it out here because I think it's better and I want as many of you to get your DG as is possible.

[Samish]

Thank you so much atomic for the links. You have given me new hope as always. I can't tell you how relax I am feeling right now. I will finding out gender in few days via blood test ( I guess results LL take 2 weeks) and I just want to announce it jumping over the moon with joy ❤️ but I am also maing up my mind to welcome dd3 in a family so I can reduce GD as much as possible