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March 25th, 2018, 02:03 AM #11Dream Newbie
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March 26th, 2018, 12:45 PM #12
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I would not take Clomid if I were you. Age + poor egg quality means that Clomid will raise your FSH very high and basically cook your eggs. Femara does NOT sway boy and was proven in a study and our results to sway pink (possibly even more than Clomid, without any of the negative effects for fertility). I strongly recommend Femara for you.
Diet, exercise, number of attempts. Those are the only things that work! (plus Femara if you can get it). All the other stuff like pH and ions is garbage - they do nothing and trying to include them really cuts odds of conception which we cannot afford here.
DH can't release every day because it cuts sperm count too far. We need you to be in with a viable attempt every month that passes by, and that means he needs to release no more/less than every 2-4 days for optimal sperm health and numbers. This is ESPECIALLY true if you proceed with the IUI. If he released daily it could cut odds of conception to nil.
If you TTC naturally I would have you guys start off with every 4 day method. This is having unprotected sex every 4 days (in a Monday/Thursday pattern, not those days per se but that many days apart) starting after your period ends and going through till you are 100% sure you've ovulated, even if that means going on till your next period begins. This guards against early or late ovulation and works out to be one attempt in the fertile window without having to think about it too much.
Olive leaf has been claimed to lead to more XX conceived. I am not certain I believe it works, but it's the only sperm safe supplement for swaying pink.
NO licorice root, cranberry - they don't work and really cut odds of conception hugely. Wellman conception, l-arg and antioxidants should be avoided because they may sway blue. The BEST thing he can do for his sperm health is do that regular release, anyway.
I want you to wean off the Vit. E, D, C, the prenatal (You should NOT be taking excess Vit. E and C with a prenatal, and possibly not Vit. D either depending on the dose, so PLEASE do not restart the extra Vit. E and C once you get pregnant, this could harm your baby! just take prenatal when pregnant) WEan off evening primrose oil.
Are you anemic? Most people do not need extra iron in addition to the prenatal. If you fill me in on the amount of iron/Vit. D in the prenatal and then in the iron and Vit. D supplements I can better advise you. Taking too much is worse than not enough and can cause you serious harm.
Cranberry is harmful, doesn't work, and may cause or contribute to miscarriage
Omega 3 may sway blue, if you feel you need it, please reduce to 2-3 days per week.
NAC - do you have PCOS? You can take it if you want, at your discretion. Just be sure when you come off it you wean off it gradually by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then you can drop.
calcium and magnesium are at your discretion. Personally I got boys taking them and gave them up to get my girl, the best study ever done on maternal preconception diet and gender conceived showed women with the highest intakes of cal-mag had more boys, not girls, and the science claiming to support the concept is super sketchy but I know some can't give up the idea. Just be sure you wean off them and DO NOT take extra Vit. D with them.
Ubiquinol is fine, continue at present dose, wean off gradually at BFP
Folate is fine, I'd have you at 2000.
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March 26th, 2018, 04:10 PM #13Dream Newbie
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This is so helpful. Thank you so much!
A few clarifications...
How much and when would I take Femara?
How does number of attempts sway?
So are you saying I should only take folate and ubiquinol? Prenatal too? Does that sway?
DH despite his decent sperm should only take olive leaf? How much and how often?
I am slightly anemic so I was taking one 'spatone' a day
Is there a link to anything else about diet? Finding it hard to get my head around it.
Also, Do you believe in the babydust method?
Thank you!
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March 27th, 2018, 01:23 PM #14
You need to get the Femara first and they will prescribe a dose and set of days. If you're taking it on your own then hit me up for directions at that time, most people take 2.5 mg Femara CD 3-7.
We don't know how number of attempts sway, only that in our results, we saw it get better results than virtually all other tactics (and we didn't even KNOW number of attempts swayed at that point!) At that time we were having people do lots of other things like ph, timing, frequency, herbs, all of which cut odds of conception by a lot, and then add attempts to get pregnant faster. We got terrible results that way (with many attempts) When we saw the trend we switched over to everyone having one attempt and dropping other things to get pregnant, and our results went up immediately and stayed up ever since that time.
I want you only on folate and ubiquinol. Wean off everything else. If you can't stand giving up the prenatal then reduce to 2-3 days a week. Nutrients sway blue so we need to reduce nutrient intake, and that's why we are having you come off those other nutrient supplements.
None of the supplements for swaying pink that men take have worked. So, since they are also harmful to sperm health, it makes no sense for your husband to take them. He will be lowering your chances of conceiving for things that do nothing. Olive leaf dose is 500 mg a day starting right away and going thru BFP at which point you can have him gradually wean off.
Go ahead and continue the Spatone either daily if you need it that often or 3x a week maintenance dose
Please tell me what you're having trouble understanding about the diet. I have a bajillion other things on diet but I want to be sure I"m actually answering your question rather than just inundating you with info.
No, I don't believe in the Babydust method. They got their "one attempt" idea from us and then added timing to it, but timing has been completely debunked by all dependable sources and it really cuts odds of conception. I regularly get people in here who have been trying to conceive using Babydust for a whole year without any success.!!! Questions??Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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March 28th, 2018, 03:19 PM #15Dream Newbie
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This is so helpful - thank you!!!
So do you recommend only dtd once per cycle making sure with OPK it is around ovulation?
As for diet maybe I will ask specific questions for my usual staple foods... I think I read too many different things from different places and got confused...
I usually eat a lot of:
cheese
bread (white, brown and spelt)
oatmeal
nuts
dried fruit
almond milk
yogurt
eggs
fish
vegetables
90% dark chocolate
green/herbal teas
white/brown pasta
brown/red rice
pizza
tofu
legumes/pulses
Are these all ok?
What are your thoughts about:
tomatoes
potatoes
milk products
aspartame
missing breakfast
sugar
salt
oil (I got confused about which oils - olive oil no? canola yes? butter yes?)
What about DH - should I modify his diet? If so for how long?
Thank you so much!
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March 28th, 2018, 06:40 PM #16
Agh sorry again, can you bump this for me? I thought it was shorter LOL
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March 29th, 2018, 01:00 AM #17Dream Newbie
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March 30th, 2018, 09:53 AM #18Dream Newbie
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March 30th, 2018, 02:26 PM #19
No, not only once per cycle (I would have the Great Husband Rebellion of 2018 on my hands if we did that LOL) but just once in the fertile window without protection. You can BD when you aren't fertile, or with protection at any time, but when it comes time to do the babymaking you have only one attempt. We like to stick this attempt at positive OPK because it's an easy way of having the one attempt at a point in time that is good chances of conception.
All foods are allowed on LE Diet within limits. Some foods are better than others, and some people like to eliminate some foods to try and blend various sway diets, but everything is allowed. Every single thing you list is ok to eat within the limits of the diet. Limits first and foremost.
Oatmeal, most people choose to avoid or limit because it has a compound in it that may raise testosterone - but a)it's really not concentrated enough to do that, esp. if you're only having it 1-2 days a week and b) we don't even know that testosterone sways. Up to you.
I think given your age you'll do best focusing on brown grains only and keeping grains to somewhat of a dull roar. Up protein and fat to 50-60 g each and get the rest of your calories from fruits, veg (including potatoes), whole grains (inc. brown rice), nuts, and legumes/pulses/soy (these can be quite carby tho). Limit sugar or eliminate it totally (this includes dried fruit which has sooo much sugar that you may as well be eating candy.
I want you eating full fat dairy ONLY and 4-6 eggs a week. NO SKIM DAIRY at all whatsoever.
Almond milk I think you should avoid due to its carbiness.
Any herb tea is fine no more than 2x a week for any particular kind.
The "forbidden" foods for pink - things like tomato, potato - are FINE for LE Diet. The only reason they were ever said to sway blue was because they have potassium in them, and on mineral balancing diets in which people ingest massive quantities of dairy foods to increase calcium, those have tons of potassium so in order to both eat a lot of dairy whilst limiting potassium, they had to cut out all other foods. Since on LE Diet we do not do all that dairy, we actually have a difficult time getting enough potassium and so I suggest everyone include potassium rich foods. WE need 2500-3500 mg potassium a day on ALL sway diets because you risk death if you don't get enough. (really!)
Milk products are fine within limits, please use full fat dairy ONLY and avoid skim and part skim.
Things like pizza are fine! You have to undo the way of thinking about swaying where there are forbidden food groups because that approach doesn't work and makes it impossible to stick with the diet. We all eat pizza! Vegetarian pizza is a great pink sway food. When I was swaying I'd get vegetarian frozen pizzas and since the serving size was right there on the box, I could have a piece for breakfast and lunch and be happy and full of pizza while still being totally in LE Diet limits.
Aspartame - 2-3 servings a day, max. I do not believe it helps sways at all and I got my girl without it after getting my 4th boy while using it
Skipping breakfast may help a bit. The most important thing, though, is not to be eating every 15-30 minutes all day every day and instead to focus on 2-3 or even 4 meals (2-3 is better, though) to enable your blood sugar to drop between meals.
Sugar I want you to skip because of egg quality given your age
Salt - while I do still allow people to limit sodium if they so choose, virtually all of us dropped that limit. It makes no biological sense and the science that supposedly supports the notion is nonsensical. I got my girl with my husband and I eating tons of sodium while I was limiting it when we got our 4th boy.
VEgetable based oils are best, if you do eat some butter now and then it's not the end of the world.
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March 31st, 2018, 10:55 AM #20Dream Newbie
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That's so helpful - thank you!
Just a few clarifications...
What do you mean by 'LE diet limits'?
Do you think Aspartame will decrease my fertility? (I was thinking each day either a spoonful in yogurt /herbal tea or a Sprite zero)
Is yogurt ok?
How about olive oil, fish (white, salmon, tuna), 90% dark chocolate (I eat that a lot) and tofu?
Should I get DH to do any of this? (If so, ongoing all month, every month?)
So I was thinking my sway is basically:
My diet - varied healthy diet, skip breakfast, 2-3 meals per day, limit/eliminate sugar, whole grains, full fat, vegetable oils, plenty of protein and fruit/ veg, aspartame once a day, avoid almond milk/oatmeal, limit herbal tea
Me – Folate (I have Soglar Metafolin 400mcg and it says to take 1 tablet...what do you think?), Superherb Ubiquinol (I have 50mg... I thought to take 300mg a day?)
(Plus stop taking prenatal, Vit c/d/e, Omega 3 and Evening Primrose oil. Decrease spatone iron)
DH – Solgar Olive leaf (It says standardized Olive Extract (leaf) (Oleuropein 14 mg [6%]) 225 mg and Raw Olive Powder (leaf) 225 mg and can take 1-3 tablets a day - how many should he take?)
DH Release every 2-4 days (alone or withdrawal method)
DTD – once in fertile window (using OPK)
Cardio Exercise 3x60 min per week (plus walking to work etc)
Does that look ok for a girl sway?
Thank you!!!!Last edited by Yarmon; March 31st, 2018 at 11:25 AM.
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