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    My experience is that once we start swaying our bodies do crazy things! I'm now on cycle 8 ttc!


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    blueeyedguys, I hope you are indeed pregnant! You could get a BFP starting tomorrow, fx. With my last pregnancy I knew I was pregnant with twins from implantation onwards so I'm a big believer in intuition.

    fivebabies, I can't imagine having multiple migraines EVERY cycle, wow. How do you stand it? I get migraines in some of my hyper O cycles but they are usually mild and certainly not every month. Do you have meds you can take to help?

    sage, I'm not worried that my kids will blame me for having them later, I'm just angry at myself/the world bc I think it's better to have kids young for MANY reasons, including health reasons as mentioned, also so my kids can have living grandparents, cousins close in age, (I had neither) and not a big generation gap with me. My dad was even older, 47, when I was born. And I have a 7 year younger brother. Yes, I had many jssues with my mom but the having kids young thing goes way beyond that snd always had. I also really wanted a big family - for years I dreamed of 12 kids, then later I decided 6 was more reasonable...now I'll be lucky if I can manage 4. Plus I want to BF for as long as each child wants which I might not be able to do if I want to have several children as soon as possible. It's my whole number one life dream being messed up. Of course, being widowed and rapidly & abruptly crippled have posed/still pose major obstacles.

    Enough about me...that temp rise does seem to indicate you Oed. Do you think you definitely did or could it be a fluke like my one temp early this cycle? Is there any reason that temp might be less than reliable? As for how long sperm take to reach your reproductive tract, that happens in seconds to minutes. The bigger issue is that sperm cannot fertilize an egg until they capicitate, and that process takes several hours (maybe 6 on average but potentially up to 12 hours depending on various factors). I am worried about the same thing, bc I think I Oed early this morning but I didn't attempt until 8 pm, and generally the egg is only viable for 12 hours (if even that). Fingers crossed we both catch our eggs! Will you be testing early or waiting for AF?

    Junie, do you get O pain that seems to usually coincide with O, or any other symptoms that help you pinpoint O during or after the fact? I did attempt again today but I think I Oed 12 hours before so not thrilled with my chances. I'm still glad I tried. I also have found my cycle (for multiple months, in fact) was pretty weird/messed up after my loss.

    TaytumJ, I hate to say it but I'm not sure you've Oed considering that big temp drop & the subtlety of your temp shift. I'll comment in more detail in your thread. I hope I'm wrong to doubt it though.

    Ladies, I had another true positive today but it's definitely lightercthsn yesterday's, no longer blaring. I think I Oed around 8am at the latesr and unfortunately didn't attempt again until 8pm (plumber was here all morning then I was waiting all afternoon for heating oil delivery that came 5 hours late with no communication!). I can't believe both my attempts were so poorly timed this month. Also, 4.5 days apart. I did however have some strong left ovary twinges in the early afternoon so I have a teensy bit of hope that maybe I released an egg from my left as well as the earlier egg from my right. I rarely O from the left but my last pregnancy the girl twin was from an egg my left ovary. All other pregnancies the egg came from my right. But most likely I won't get a chance to conceive this cycle I think.

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    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Grace, have you had a positive OPK or almost positive? I hope you do O soon so we're O bddies. I'd do 3.5 days since last attempt if you're unsure of when to attempt again.

    XX, I think Oing on a New Moon does significantly (at least) sway pink and at least one study demonstrated that it sways pink strongly (with a large majority of NM babies being girls). Full Moon only very slightly sways blue on the flipside. Fx that's why your cycles have been shortening so as to align O with the NM so as to conceive then. Unfortunately my past 3 cycles have very clearly been shifting to align with the FM. But I know/hope it's not a huge deal. I'm more worried about my snacking/very weak fasting the past week. I've been SO hungry lately, often sick to my stomach even.

    I agree mommymachine's chart is amazing - I've been eyeing it for several days - but I think she is not yet TTC, correct me if I'm wrong?

    Junie, I recommend reading some totally engrossing, utterly compelling, long winded and/or lengthy series...like Game of Thrones, the Hollows/Rachel Morgan series, or the Dark Secrets books by A. M. Hudson. Those are high fantasy, urban fantasy and paranormal romance, respectively. Ooh or the Outlander series is great for historical romance. What do you like to read? Or you could watch a season or two of a great TV show; if you tell me your preferences I can make suggestions. Those are the most effective ways I know of to make the TWW pass more quickly!
    Last edited by maidentomother; February 6th, 2015 at 08:04 PM.

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Outlander is fantastic!!!! My fav by far.


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    And the new moon thing freaks me out. I believe it sways pink-I conceived my angel dd in a new moon. Now I am back to ovulating around the full moon and if this cycle I get a BFP I will be obsessed with the thought of the bloody moon and its ability to ruin a half assed post loss sway. I will always blame this factor if I get an opposite. If I even get a BFP!!!!


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    Maidentomother, I was worried about that after such a steep drop. [emoji17] I'm hoping that maybe it was more because of a restless night's sleep? I tossed and turned and woke up early then went back to sleep. Any way that could mess with it?

    Junie, I just started the podcast Serial (Serial) and I am hooked! It definitely helps pass the time and take my mind off a lot of other things. I've also been listening while walking on the treadmill.


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    We had our attempt last night! The way I see it is that if I o on cd11-12 , then our attempt from cd7 is probably meaningless, especially with me being so very dry down there, so an attempt on cd10 seems good, even if that makes it only 3 days between attempts. Now all I can do is wait and wait and wait.... and hope these will be my last couple of weeks on LE diet !

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    Maiden- I read the first 3 or 4 game of thrones but it got a bit too depressing for my taste so I stopped. I loved the first Outlander but don't like "soapy" type books (in terms of once a couple comes together I want them to stay together I don't want to read 6 books of obstacles being thrown in their way- just not my taste), Dark Secrets sounds sort of interesting but I can't stand love triangles!, sounds like that is an issue in the Hollows books as well. But you are right a good book is just what I need! I like fantasy, paranormal romance, sci-fi- but I can be a bit picky

    Taytum- I would want to wait for a few more days of temps before deciding if you have Od or not. Serial sounds very good!

    I've had another low temp and DH and I had our last BD attempt last night. Now I just have to hope I O soon, or otherwise try to move on for this cycle. I'm really down at the moment. I've lost 4 months to the miscarriage when you also consider that TTC cycle and now it looks like if I do ever O my H won't even be in town. Long cycles can be so depressing. I mean people will have finished a whole cycle before I even O (if I ever do). I'm trying to just focus on the future and present but it would be a lot easier if I felt like I even had a chance of getting pregnant. I also have tons of pregnancy and O signs all the time due to the miscarriage, which is depressing and makes it hard to know if anything is actually going to happen this cycle. Sorry for the poor me post ladies, just had to vent.
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    I had a 97.68 temp this AM. Still above cover line but not very high. [emoji17] I feel your frustration. If this isn't an actual O I'll be so upset. I'm actually on cd126, but marked this cycle as CD1 on the first day of light dark brown spotting because I just mentally HAD to see a new chart with a clean slate.

    I don't know much about miscarriages, but I am really sorry for your loss and I can completely understand all the emotions you're going through. I think you're completely entitled to a vent, and more. I hope that the light at the end of the tunnel shines through for you soon!


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    Just2boys, you read how I wrote FM doesn't really sway blue? The vast majority of all babies are conceived on/near FMs. Definitely not woryh stressing about.

    TaytumJ, restless sleep should artificially RAISE, not lower, your temp. Plus, your post O temps are not well above your Pre ao temps AND they've been stagnant. Temps should be increasing overall during the first 7-10 days of the LP, at least. Yours aren't. :/ I do totally get starting a new cycle and really, you don't need more than 2w of temps before O to get the overall picture.

    Grace, good thinking and good luck!

    Junie, while I haven't had a loss as late as you, I've had more long cycles this past year than ever before, due to Vitex mostly I think. I HATE Oing in the CD20s. So I understand your frustration. Fx your last attempt is all you end up needing.

    I wouldn't call Outlander soapy (and I do know what you mean), as the couple do stay together really. Keep reading! I highly doubt you will be regret doing so. The Hollows books do NOT have a love triangle. There is definite romantic confusion, bc Rachel is immature, but no love triangles. I also despise love triangles, btw, however I DO like true polyamory. Dark Secrets is YA and probably what you would consider soapy, but I found it just crazy addictive. A guilty pleasure. Like how some people talk about Twilight, but far better (I am not a Twilight fan). It is pretty melodramatic and there are love triangles on and off but I could handle them bc to me it was always clear ons guy had her heart always.
    Last edited by maidentomother; February 7th, 2015 at 11:30 AM.

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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