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    Tbh I can't remember whether my girls were a regular or deep release but I can say I was a serial jump and dumper. This was all before I'd heard of swaying so was just doing it as part of getting ready to sleep and I'd heard going to the bathroom straight after helps avoid UTIs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RNmommyof4 View Post
    Thank you so much for your reply! I can't wait to find out!! It's crazy that I had never heard of swaying outside of the debunked Shettles method we heard about in nursing school! When I started looking things up about guessing gender after I got pregnant, I stumbled upon this site! I was pleased I fit in the category sort of without realizing it. Of course I started worrying about little things like the snacking, big O, etc, but have been somewhat at ease reading all of this wonderful info! Best wishes to you as well!!
    Oh ok sure! Yes I consider that one attempt. The first attempt would have been before the fertile window opened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mommykisses View Post
    I sadly got another BFN . Im getting really
    Tired of all the diet and exercise and I really want to do my best to get pregnant this month . First off I think I am ovulating right on the full moon ��so I'm nervous already . Aside from the Le vegetarian diet , doing 60 min of walking 4-6 days a week . I have been using rephresh three days after the end of my period and 12 - 24 hours prior to attempt . The last two months have been one attempt only on first day positive opk both times were kind of shallow release ( not sure if this is my problem )? As for supplements I have been doing physilium fibre with every meal , low dose aspirin every few days . and antihistamines every few days from af-o . Also peppermint / and spearmint tea 3x day .I did take an antihistamine both days that we did our attempt . My husband is cutting back meat but not always , taking licorice root 1-3 times a day ( he actually takes this for preventing ulcers anyways ) and he takes low dose soy isoflavs when ever he can remember .

    I read your awesome post on how many attempts but I'm getting a little confused with all the info . I know you can't give an exact answer but I'm hoping you can share some advise if I feel I need to do more than one attempt . Or if you feel I should drop or add anything else . I have been consistently getting my first positive opk 14 days from the first day of af and a positive on day 15 as well . I was thinking first attempt on first day of positive opk and then one attempt on o day . Or one one day before positive and one either on first positive opk or right on O day . If you think it could be ok to try more than twice I am more than willing . Even though I kind of just want to be pregnant I really do want my best chance for a
    Girl .what are your thoughts for best numerous attempts without affecting ph too much that it would sway boy . Or if you still think 1 attempt is best what is the best day for highest chances of pregnancy ?
    Before you start adding attempts you need to drop that other stuff you're doing IMO. You need to lose RepHresh, antihistamine, the mint tea, soy iso and LR for hubby. All those things cut odds of concepiton and none of them are seeming to help us anywhere near as much as the one attempt has. In the early days of the site, we tried keeping those things and adding attempts and it was our worst success rates of the site, so I cannot ever recommend anyone add attempts until they have dropped all those things.

    An O Day attempt doesn't work for conception - it is much lower than O-1 and O-2 attempts so you'd be undermining your sway for lower odds of conception. In addition to dropping those things already mentioned I want you to have attempts every 4 days starting after AF ends and going through till when you're sure you have ovulated (even if this means going through till next AF) It may be that you have been or will in the future, ovulate early or late and e4d is better for that. Then if you MUST (and I strongly urge you drop all that other stuff before doing this) then add in one more attempt at positive OPK

    DO NOT under any circumstances add in a 3rd attempt. No way, no how. This was 40-ish% success for pink even with otherwise good pink sways and it makes no sense to me to undermine your sway without dropping all those other things.

    Shallow release has never been proven to work for swaying and is something I have had come up repeatedy with people who were having trouble conceiving (even without all the other stuff you're doing!!) Shallow release has GOT TO GO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mommykisses View Post
    Thank you for the quick reply . Were girl attempts regular or deep release ? Also did you do a jump and dump ? After today I think I'm going to stick with one attempt unless there is a safe way of doing two attempts . I'm thinking waiting 5-15 min before dumping as well ?
    Yes, you need to wait at least 5 minutes before getting up. That's how most of us do J and D on this site, after 5 min instead of immediately.

    I really, really want you to recast this in your head that you have not really been trying until now. Doing all those things really meant it was pretty unlikely you were going to conceive and now you're in it to win it, but we have to do it SMART and not go from doing too much to get pregnant, to basically swaying blue. Drop things that aren't working but focus on the things that ARE!
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    Thanks so much ladies . I will drop the rephresh antihistamines and rephresh . Just so I'm clear if I drop all the above and do one attempt this month what is the best day for My one attempt ? I am using opk tests . It shows I ovulate on cd14&15 should I try cd12 cd13 or 14 ? Then if I don't get pregnant this month next month do every 4 days ?
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    Most of us do the day of first positive OPK. Please do not try many days before your expected O. An attempt on CD 12 for a CD 15 ovulation would have very slim chances of conception.
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    Ok , I thought so . Just wanted to make sure . Thanks so much ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Before you start adding attempts you need to drop that other stuff you're doing IMO. You need to lose RepHresh, antihistamine, the mint tea, soy iso and LR for hubby. All those things cut odds of concepiton and none of them are seeming to help us anywhere near as much as the one attempt has. In the early days of the site, we tried keeping those things and adding attempts and it was our worst success rates of the site, so I cannot ever recommend anyone add attempts until they have dropped all those things.

    An O Day attempt doesn't work for conception - it is much lower than O-1 and O-2 attempts so you'd be undermining your sway for lower odds of conception. In addition to dropping those things already mentioned I want you to have attempts every 4 days starting after AF ends and going through till when you're sure you have ovulated (even if this means going through till next AF) It may be that you have been or will in the future, ovulate early or late and e4d is better for that. Then if you MUST (and I strongly urge you drop all that other stuff before doing this) then add in one more attempt at positive OPK

    DO NOT under any circumstances add in a 3rd attempt. No way, no how. This was 40-ish% success for pink even with otherwise good pink sways and it makes no sense to me to undermine your sway without dropping all those other things.

    Shallow release has never been proven to work for swaying and is something I have had come up repeatedy with people who were having trouble conceiving (even without all the other stuff you're doing!!) Shallow release has GOT TO GO.
    So attempting every 4 days is considered one attempt?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Debahlgrim View Post
    So attempting every 4 days is considered one attempt?


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    Yes. It is highly unlikely sperm will survive any longer than 4 days so you will never have viable sperm from 2 different attempts present at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debahlgrim View Post
    So attempting every 4 days is considered one attempt?


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    Yes, and no. Mia lays out the case for the e4d being one attempt above.

    BUT

    e4d is new. I do not yet have the higher level of confidence that I have in one attempt and nor do I have the very clear and obvious difference in results that we saw when we started focusing on one attempt to inspire that confidence. It very well may be that the e4d is inferior NOT because of how long the sperm lives but because of something else entirely and so it is my preference that most of you guys start off doing one attempt, and if you would prefer an e4d type of thing right from the start (unless you are older or in a huge hurry to conceive for some other reason) extend that out so it's more like e5,6, or even 7 days (yes, I mean unprotected sex once per week) at the start then move it closer and closer in.
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