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  1. #21
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    Soooo msny of us pink swayers were huge snackers but you adjust and it becomes quite easy for most of us eventually. That's why it's so good to start in advance to give yourself time to adjust and make NOT snacking a habit.

    If you're already thin you just eat more cals so you don't lose too mucy weight. Especially adding empty cals like soda helps stop/prevent weight loss. I am thin naturally but only lost 5lbs over the first 6w on the diet, then I held steady. You can do it!

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Also…What about laying after BD? I was thinking about BD then jump and dump. But I am not sure that I can get pregnant that way. My DH and I went 4 years in college with no Birth control BD every day with no ooops.

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    You don't have to J&D. It doesn't make much of a difference wnyway, the sperm swim to where they need to be within seconds-minutes.

    Do you not O normally on your own?

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Quote Originally Posted by maudster View Post
    Ok I just read your "When sways Attack" article. Now, I dunno what to do?? Maybe I should not do rePHresh at all, maybe a finger tip 30 min before? I didn't realize that vitex and SP made it harder to conceive? EHHH!! I know i will not be able to stand the diet for long, so maybe it is best to just start out with a light sway, like you said something that is easy to manage. I am not sure that I want to drop Vitex and SP though bc I was thinking that lowering my Testosterone along with diet and exercise would be a great way for me to go? Maybe I should just get off of vitex if it is messing up my cycles.
    Just to further complicate matters - check out how low their results are. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...readsheet.html

    The counterintuitive thing about swaying is that it seems as if focusing on the RIGHT things is actually MORE effective than throwing the kitchen sink at it. I don't know if some of these things are actually swaying blue somehow (numbers do not indicate this) or, as I believe, the extraneous gobbledygook makes it so much harder to get pregnant that ovulation stops and people have to end up swaying blue just to get pregnant and/or that the mental energies involved in keeping it all organized sway in a big way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maudster View Post
    Also…What about laying after BD? I was thinking about BD then jump and dump. But I am not sure that I can get pregnant that way. My DH and I went 4 years in college with no Birth control BD every day with no ooops.
    You can always compromise and wait 5, 10, or 15 minutes and then J and D.

    This is a crystal ball q that I honestly don't ahve the answer to. I have not ever found that I got pg getting up right away. I laid down for at least a while with all 5 and in months where i got up pretty quick after, I didn't get pg. But that may be a coincidence and I know tons of people out there who had desperately hoped J and D would be a good BC method who found out otherwise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maidentomother View Post
    SP & V can cause issues but they don't ALWAYS, for everyone. I never had issues on SP (though I didn't take it with V or for swaying purposes) and some ladies find V helps with conception. So while it's true that they tend to inhibit conception overall, that is the point of swaying pink. I think taking them for 2-3 months before you TTC then stopping once you start attempting is the best of both worlds, as you get any pink effects without messing up your cycles when TTC. Until you're actively TTC, it doesn't matter much if your cycles are affected. And, it's possible the disruption of cycles is part of how these supps sway pink.

    But above all, go with a sway that you find as relaxing as possible. If you know you'll stress over supps, skip them. They're not essential by any means.
    I personally believe that it matters why people have fertility issues - if they are stemming from PCOS (too many hormones) than something that lowers/interferes with hormones can help. If someone's having fertility issues from hypothalamic amenorrhea (too thin, too few hormones being produced) or age (also too few hormones) then these things may make matters significantly worse.

    This is one of the things I woudl LOVE to study.
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    Yeah vitex and Saw Palmetto are only 58%….I do not have a problem ovulating. I normally ovulate around the same time every month give or take two days. I thought these would be my "ticket". Guess I will need to focus more on diet and exercise. Maybe just vitex or saw palmetto? I would guess Saw Palmetto since it would effect testosterone, etc. And skip vitex?? Any suggestions?

    If I don't take one or the other I don't really "feel" like I am swaying. lol I would't be taking any other supplements besides folic acid and fiber. I am going to use a fingertip of refresh 30 min before attempt (1 month) and if I don't get preg. drop it. No sylk. Sticking with the lavender, etc.

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    I have neglected to say that my DH side of the family is almost all boys in like 3 generations. There is only one girl per generation and the one for "my" generation was just born to my SIL. Does this really affect me? My IL's generation all stopped at 2 kids, so who would have known what happened with their 3rd? This will be my 3rd….

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    If you O normally how did you BD daily in college with DH and never conceive? I am very confused!

    Atomic, I definitely agree the hormone modulating effects of herbs can be good or bad depending on the person. I too would love to see them studied.

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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