Trying for a girl after 3 boys and 2 losses

[Pbn3]

Hi loren just to let you know I conceived both my boys with 2+ attempts in fertile window, dtd 4 x times in fertile window with ds1 using internet ovulation calculator for suspected week of ov and 3 attempts with ds2 (was temping and charting with him - had no idea about trying for natural gender sway at the time) hence I really believe its mostly about the diet as I was on such a boy friendly diet then!!!

[XXforhubby]

Loren- It is rather your type of diet and exercise that sways the strongest. What we have found however, that only one attempt along with the LE diet and exercise (if you do it) sways girl = 70-75%!

Now remember you are focusing solely on the timing aspect when you conceived your boys. I bet if you looked at your diet/eating patterns I bet they were very boy friendly.

Please, trust me on this, if you have more attempts you will be shooting yourself in the foot and undoing ALL of your hard work on the LE diet and exercise (if you plan on doing the hour of cardio)!

FWIW, DS2 was only one attempt BUT, I always had breakfast, snacked throughout the day, ate WAY more than 50g of protein, and did moderate amount of exercise and weight lifting = boy!! The measly effect of one attempt didn't have a chance to sway girl for me with my heavily boy lifestyle! Focus on what matters most: LE diet, cardio exercise, and ONE attempt in the fertile window = GIRL!!!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Loren i conceived my last 2 with one attempt in the fertile window, but I think the diet tips the scales that way. I'm gonna chance it lol it's either one attempt in the window (or adding attempts as well) or some crazy cut off that doesn't make sense and you won't get pg.


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[LacePrincess]

Loren, first of all, I am so so sorry to hear about your losses. That truly sucks.

I read through the thread real quick so forgive me if I missed anything, but did you mention your age? And, did you get a full fertility workup?

The reason I ask is because if you're mid 30's+, it's a REALLY good idea to get a full workup so you know right now if your fertility is starting to run out. I am not trying to scare you, but short cycles and short luteal phases are a symptom of dropping ovarian reserve. I'm NOT saying that is a problem for you, but it's not a bad idea to find out for sure, kwim? So if HT is on your radar at all, it's a good idea to get all your fertility pretesting done so you know how much time you have to work with. IVF is something that has a much better chance when you're younger with a good ovarian supply. I wouldn't want you to waste time swaying if you've got real fertility issues going on.

In my case, I've always had short LP's. From 9-12 days on average, but still managed to conceive. It did take us an inordinately long time though. My current RE suspects that a morphology issue on DH's side might be a factor. Right now my cycle is completely shot though, with ovulating like CD25 and an LP of 5 (!!!!) so yeah there's something wrong with me now.

Anyways, if you haven't, please consider getting a workup done, then at least you know how much time you have left. Especially if you're in your 30's - your fertility can disappear quickly!


ETA: Also, PLEASE don't mess with your Clomid prescription. If your doc prescribed 50mg - stick with it! It's not a vitamin and Clomid can be dangerous if misused. I dearly hope you are actually being monitored on Clomid - unmonitored Clomid results in Kate + 8!!

If you're not being monitored, will your doc give you Femara instead? It acts similarly to Clomid but there is a MUCH lower chance of multiple follies and also no risk of thinning the lining like Clomid does. While I get the allure of twins, in reality twin pregnancies are risky for so many complications to both mother and fetus(es). There's a reason why so many RE's are soooo cautious about multiples.

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic, can you clear up whether I personally should just do one attempt given our time restriction, (even though hubby says we don't have one, and that we'll take care of things but I don't want that pressure of having to explain to my clients); or if you would recommend the 4 day plan (which hubby loves).


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At 39 with your time restriction you should not do one attempt. I actually agree strongly with your husband that you need to be open to the possibility of forgoing the time restriction given your age, but that is of course up to your discretion.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much.

I'm not sure yet what I want to do as far as timing. I conceived two of my three boys with one attempt on fertile window. I'm scared!

This isn't timing. It is number of attempts. Totally different thing.

I can guarantee you based on our results for both pink and blue sways that the reason you had boys has nothing to do with having one attempt. One attempt sways pink, there is no other possible explanation for the results we've gotten. (don't ask me how or why, but there's no other way to interpret the stats, as far as I can see)

Timing is totally up to you if you want to include that - the fertile window is NOT O Day, it is O-3, O-2, O-1, and O Day (with a little outside chance on O-4) If you wish to do timing, I advise one attempt on O-2. O-3/4 are too slim of odds of conception)

[atomic sagebrush]

I missed the messing with Clomid part - I agree no messing with Clomid!!! I think 50 mg is the max anyone should take unless being monitored!

[Loren]

Thank you all for your time.

I've done the LE diet now for weeks and will continue up through next month. I'll try one attempt on O-2. I've never gotten pregnant on O-4, just as yall mentioned. Very slim chances.

I'm 28. Doc is monitoring me with blood tests on day 21.

[Loren]

Our sway so far:
I've been doing 50% carbs, 30% fat, 20% protein and doing well. I took clomid in the AM starting on day 3. We've been walking or going to the pool each day for a few hours but that's only been for 2 weeks so I don't think that's really worth factoring in. My husband has taken OLE each day in the morning. We're BDing every 4 days. I haven't had any side effects from clomid of symptoms of ovulation yet, but I shouldn't ovulate for a few more days. If I ovulate when my dc predicted based on clomid days, it'll be on cycle day 14 which is when I do normally. If we continue with every 4 days, we'll have an attempt on day 9, 13, and 17. I've decided against taking ovulation tests since I'm unsure of the reliability with Clomid. I've also taken a baby aspirin each day (doctors advice), a folic acid pill, benafiber in water in the morning, avoided eating until 11-1, and switched to diet soda which I've never had before. How does everything sound so far?

[maidentomother]

Sounds good! You should get a nice strong positive OPK on Clomid, most do, just don't start testing with OPKs until CD10 or you might get false positives. One attempt on the same day you get your first positive OPK should be O-1 or O-2 timing, both excellent odds of conception. On average, if you have normal cycles, you can expect to O on CD14 though it could be later with PCOS. Fx for you.