what is the BEST way to lower testosterone?

[atomic sagebrush]

Does the 60 min. of exercise need to be done all at once during the day or could it be broken down into 2-30 min. intervals?

Sorry Crystal, this one sneaked past me!!! Unfortunately, it's best do it all at once. Studies have found that first your body breaks down all the carbs in your system, then fat, and then only at around an hour, does it begin to break down muscle for energy.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm a little depressed about this too since I am already on the low end of healthy weight, but was told a few years ago I had high testosterone. It's really making me think trying to sway pink is hopeless after the reading I've done. I don't think my doctor would test my testosterone under the premises of trying to conceive a girl since i get pregnant very easily, and therefor I am not a fertility patient. But I want the have even lower than normal testosterone- is this even possible? I'm convinced super low testosterone and glucose is the best scientific way to sway pink.

It's not hopeless. It can make it more challenging to be sure. I would def. try diet and supplements and just see what happens, if you can't lose any weight, don't lose any weight. If you don't feel like you're seeing changes, then you don't have to TTC. Don't forget, you'll also be lowering sperm count and drying up your CM at the same time (if you're using those things to help you sway).

[nuthinbutpink]

It's not hopeless. It can make it more challenging to be sure. I would def. try diet and supplements and just see what happens, if you can't lose any weight, don't lose any weight. If you don't feel like you're seeing changes, then you don't have to TTC. Don't forget, you'll also be lowering sperm count and drying up your CM at the same time (if you're using those things to help you sway).

I think too is anything that you are doing NOW or reading now any different than when you conceived before? How about your DH? I think back to when I conceived my DD's and my diet and my DH's diet and lifestyle match up pretty well with the girl factors....not exactly but they do line up.

I don't think I could keep doing the same thing, just have sex one night and expect to have a different outcome. I would look at all the different areas and try my best to change it up. Don't get down. All you can do is what you are already doing, educate yourself, see what fits for you and give it a shot.

This is not exact science though, we all know that, but you do go into it with a 50/50 shot so anything you do will help sway those odds in your favor. If you did nothing before, you are already ahead of the game.

[suregena]

Ah! This thought entered my mind today! I work in a hospital, so I went back and read through my ultrasound scans (from my two previous miscarriages and then my healthy pregnancy) to refresh my memory of what they said. I think most of them mentioned one ovary having multiple follicles and it being consistent with polycystic ovarian disease but that if patient (me) had no symptoms then it was simply an incidental finding.

I think there were 6 ultrasounds on there and 3 or 4 mention this or some form of this. I never asked about it or took it further for more information, so I do not have a diagnosis. From my two miscarriages and my one healthy pregnancy, I can get pregnant one month trying. I'm a petite and healthy weight and have never been anything but a healthy weight. I do have minimal extra hair ("sideburns" sort of and toes, lower tummy) which I read as one of the symptoms. Beyond that, though, I am mainly asymptomatic. I think I've had one episode of not having a period for over 4 months but that was when I first moved to the UK--my life was forever changed and it was very overwhelming. When my mother came to visit me here, my period returned not too long after she left... so perhaps that episode was just stress-related.

So, anyway... I do not have a definitive 'diagnosis' for PCOS. Just "incidental findings" on several previous ultrasounds from my pregnancies. Some of the ultrasounds would say, however, that both of my ovaries looked normal. So, I don't know.

I'm wondering if I should approach my swaying for a girl with the mind that there is potential for extra testosterone in my system.

Are there any cases, perhaps from Ingender or from recollection from those that have been around far longer than me, that show PCOS women with success with the same odds as others? How much more difficult would PCOS make it? And what could I add or do to help lower the testosterone levels that much more, on the chance I could possibly have it?

I know this is an old thread but I didn't want to start a new one if the topic had been brought up before.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, that's fine and will help keep the threads more informative for everyone!!

I know of many women with PCOS who have daughters. It ~can~ make it a bit more tough because your testosterone is prob. higher.

I am not a doctor BUT I know for a fact that many follicles develop in your ovaries every month - between 15-20 follicles develop in each ovary but only one or two go on to become eggs. I don't know what they saw that seemed indicative of PCOS but most women with PCOS have trouble ovulating - they go for many months without ovulating. So I would suspect that many follicles can be present in the ovary but that doesn't mean you have PCOS unless you have the symptoms to go with it - kinda like you can have a cough without having pneumonia, if that makes any sense. They may see those follicles all the time and make a note for the doctor to look into it further, but without the symptoms it is ruled out.

Saw palmetto will lower your testosterone levels, as will weight loss. lindi looked into taking licorice and white peony (she believed she had asymptomatic PCOS) and she was very wary of the TTC pink diet (caveat, licorice may raise estrogen levels which is not good for PCOS or for swaying pink but it may be that the white peony mitigates that somewhat). PCOS can come along with insulin resistance and the pink diet can aggravate that. Please read http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...d-sugar-issues

[suregena]

Oh, thank you!

I believe they saw many follicles that all measured below a certain amount. But nothing ever happened in regards to it... it was merely mentioned as a side note in ultrasound reports of mine, but not every ultrasound report. I certainly ovulate... er, well, not right now due to breastfeeding... but I did, except for one episode. Saw Palmetto--I have read about this. What is the difference between that and Vitex? I know this has likely been addressed somewhere... I'll just search it out.

[atomic sagebrush]

Saw palmetto lowers testosterone - proven to work. But, now that I see you are breastfeeding, I would not take SP while breastfeeding.

Vitex affects the levels of estrogen and progesterone (they're not really sure how exactly - some sources say it raises both estrogen and prog. and others say it lowers estrogen while raising prog.) but we do know that vitex has had a pretty good track record swaying for pink. Vitex is safe to take while breastfeeding.

[suregena]

Good to know. I might add Vitex to my "to look into/consider" list.

[Jojogirl]

I have PCOS and have 1 dd. I do have 3 ds's. I believe my testosterone is probably off the charts. I'm swaying for a girl now and I have been able to get my EWCM production down with taking zyrtec. I hope it's enough to help!

[1adorablebabyboymom]

Would it be smart, or not so smart, to take saw palmetto, vitex, and peppermint tea all as part of my sway? I have very regular 28 day cycles, and I don't want to mess myself up, or would that probably be just fine? thanks! or , maybe there are certain times to take certain ones?

Saw palmetto lowers testosterone - proven to work. But, now that I see you are breastfeeding, I would not take SP while breastfeeding.

Vitex affects the levels of estrogen and progesterone (they're not really sure how exactly - some sources say it raises both estrogen and prog. and others say it lowers estrogen while raising prog.) but we do know that vitex has had a pretty good track record swaying for pink. Vitex is safe to take while breastfeeding.