TTC BOY! Need Atomic help regarding HE diet

[Throwaway_panther]

I mean he needs to be "cleaning the pipes" regularly starting literally as far in advance as possible. Months. Years. Decades (ok maybe that is stretching it a little). If at all possible he should NOT wait till the month of your planned attempt, he should certainly not wait till after AF in the month you plan to attempt, he should be aiming to do this level of release all along.

Sperm take a minimum of 72 days to form and by having him do this regular release, his body will be making nice amounts of healthy sperm and ejaculating any unhealthy, aging sperm regularly.

It is ok if he has a bad day or week now and then, misses a release, whatever, you're just aiming for an overall trend.

Haha, this is exactly the kind of info I like to know -- so since I'm not TTC for awhile, I do want to try and get this bit checked out in advance.

I've seen you recommend for blue that FR be sex, not just "personal release" or non-penetrative sex -- is that correct here? Or is him "taking care of himself" every few days for months in advance okay?

My DH has never had an issue, uh, feeling this need... but I was really upset when I found out he was FR himself right before we started trying and conceived a girl, so I'm trying to be conscious of what he can do when we DO start trying.

And of course, my worry if it's "only sex counts for blue" is that we're accidentally conceive before we're really swaying (or ready!) -- are condoms okay in FR?

[atomic sagebrush]

FR is not a blue tactic, it's a pink one. For blue we want REGULAR release (and I know what you meant TP but just to clarify for others).

I personally believe, and the data supports (and happy to elaborate if anyone wants me to) the idea that regular sex every 2-4 days, with ejaculation inside, sways blue. It is also very similar to what a lot of us did when we got our boys as well (barely any of us with 2-3-4 boys got them with one shot on O, just doesn't happen in the real world!!) Thus, I LOVE to see you guys doing that for TTC a boy.

BUT, that having been said, I know that a lot of swayers have a hard time giving up on Shettles. So, for those people, I understand that they may not want to do that and so I have them have hubby do regular release every 2-4 days, on his own or with you, with protection, and then stick with the 3 attemtps at or around positive OPK. This enables them to still stick with Shettles timing but getting the benefit of more than one attempt.

Condoms are allowed but I'd try to be sure you're getting the unlubed ones and using Preseed with them. Def. no spermicide condoms!!!

[Throwaway_panther]

FR is not a blue tactic, it's a pink one. For blue we want REGULAR release (and I know what you meant TP but just to clarify for others).

I personally believe, and the data supports (and happy to elaborate if anyone wants me to) the idea that regular sex every 2-4 days, with ejaculation inside, sways blue. It is also very similar to what a lot of us did when we got our boys as well (barely any of us with 2-3-4 boys got them with one shot on O, just doesn't happen in the real world!!) Thus, I LOVE to see you guys doing that for TTC a boy.

BUT, that having been said, I know that a lot of swayers have a hard time giving up on Shettles. So, for those people, I understand that they may not want to do that and so I have them have hubby do regular release every 2-4 days, on his own or with you, with protection, and then stick with the 3 attemtps at or around positive OPK. This enables them to still stick with Shettles timing but getting the benefit of more than one attempt.

Condoms are allowed but I'd try to be sure you're getting the unlubed ones and using Preseed with them. Def. no spermicide condoms!!!

Thank you (and whoops on my misspeak -- RR it is!)! Do condoms affect sperm quality then if I should focus on unlubed + still using preseed? Ahh, based on how fertile we both unexpectedly were when trying, I'm nervous for when we finally start trying... or if we unexpectedly conceive beforehand (hence my constant questions all over the place on here, haha!)

I wonder if regular sex every 4 days in general, AF or not, with maybe an extra one or two thrown in at ovulation is best for blue then?

[atomic sagebrush]

It's not the condoms per se it's the lubricants they put on them. The residue may linger and kill sperm from your unprotected attempts if you choose to do it with the condoms earlier in the cycle.

Yes, that's my preferred method for TTC a boy. DTD unprotected every 2-4 days and then 3 attempts if poss at or around pos OPK.

[atomic sagebrush]

oh and sex during AF is fine if you like that. Some do, some don't, it's at your guys' discretion.

[gojulieogo]

Just trying to clarify... when you say release every 2-4 days as far in advance as possible, is that *at least* or *no more than?*

DH is definitely a daily type of guy, and we're not planning on trying until November, but I can try to cut down on DTD now if that's important.

[atomic sagebrush]

Daily release may possibly sway pink because it lowers sperm numbers. The little guys just can't replenish fast enough, and for reasons we do not understand, higher sperm count sways blue.

[gojulieogo]

Hmmm... probably not gonna be able to get him to cut back until a month or so in advance... do you think that'll be enough or do I need to do a hard push for less frequent release ASAP?

[atomic sagebrush]

I think it's enough and I find that the more we ask them to do, the less they WILL do, so it's better to keep things like that as minimal and uninvasive as we can.