Period cramps at 8DPO....what the ????

[1moregirl]

Thanks Atomic. Yes I was feeling uneasy about the idea of taking baby aspirin. The odds of me having a blood clotting disorder must be very minute surely, since I've had three successful pregnancies and three healthy babies already? I guess I could get a normal GP to give me a slip to get my blood tested for these? Or should I not? Soooo tricky to know what to do. I know of a 46 yr old lady in the US (from that fbk page of women in their 40s getting pregnant) and she had one MMC and one cP whilst taking 200mg ubiquinol, but when she upped it to 400mg and was taking baby aspirin and progesterone, she had a successful pregnancy and now has a little baby boy. Just coincidence with aspirine and progesterone? Maybe it was the ubiquinol or maybe just luck? I certainly don't see why women should be advised to take either aspirin or progesterone unless a doctor or FS has tested us and found a viable reason that we should take them.

I visited my friend yesterday who is 43 and has a 4 week old baby boy. We worked out that the FS/Ob/gyn I have been seeing is one who she was seeing when she conceived her first child (now 3.5) and delivered her child and gave her a horrendous birthing experience. She described him as a 'butcher' as he kept pushing her for an induction (whilst looking at the clock coz he wanted to leave work by 4 that afternoon) and gave her a traumatic and painful 'stretch and sweep' without asking her permission and without warning her. She was so traumatised that her next baby was a home birth. Some of these doctors are truly horrible and soooo lacking in bedside manners. This same doctor yesterday was pushing me for IUI or the Hysterescopy. You have to wonder whose benefit it's for? Do they really have our best interests at heart or their own agenda?

[atomic sagebrush]

Everybody has their miracle "I started taking this and had a baby" story BUT what I do want you to understand is that since most losses are caused by chromosomal issues with egg or sperm, and since most people start taking "Magickal Mysteree Herbz" after having a loss, what happens is that they make a good egg and get pregnant from it. It would have happened anyway because the egg was a Goldie, but we are just overly programmed to see things in a cause-effect kind of way.

Studies have proven that the prog does nothing. Even the doctors are agreeing now that it doesn't (and for them to eat their words on something to this level is kinda huge!!) It does seem relatively harmless. The aspirin is another story, where you may be causing yourself serious harm, even death, and for many people may make matters worse making them more likely to miscarry than not. So to me, I'd I agree with your assessment that 3 healthy babies and then losses in your mid 40's is not indicative of a clotting disorder to me (especially given that you lost a lot of blood the one time). OF course I can't say that without testing, but I probably wouldn't do the testing in your shoes.

Re the ubiquinol, again, there are no fixes like that. Even ubiquinol, which I do have people take, is NOT going to take a woman who had no chance of pregnancy and get her pregnant. If it did, there would not be websites full of people who were going through infertility. They all take all the "fixes" and still can't get pregnant. I mention this not to be discouraging but just to help you understand that the reason why a gal had a couple losses in her mid-40's and then went onto have a healthy pregnancy is because she had a good egg show up. That's all. It wasn't a vitamin or mineral or magic herb, it was a good egg. We all make em up to some point, just that over time we make them less and less. Some of us only may make 1 or 2 a year. But it takes a good egg to make a baby and not a miracle pill, unfortunately.

What you have to understand about the docs is that "to a little boy with a hammer, every problem they encounter is a nail in need of pounding" meaning that since they have the technology, it takes a lot for them not to use it. When their patients show up asking for help, I'm sure the temptation is to use the technology at their disposal even if it's really not necessarily indicated by the circumstances. As an example, the progesterone supplements, a lot of patients will get furious with their doctors for doing what I believe is the right thing and not using them. So I can have some sympathy I suppose, when they view everything from an invasive position - people expect them to DO stuff, so stuff they will do. I do think that most of them go into medicine for the right reasons but the training they receive and then just human nature conspire to make them not always as receptive to our needs and interests as we would hope they would be. :/