Newbie's *pink* pink dreams

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, even just up till last year they used to let people take it for 6 months. Something has shifted the past year and now they're saying 3. I think this is a little overly conservative but it's fine to take a month off now if you'd liek. Just one cycle. And i"d still have you try with that cycle since it stays in your system and can still sway pink.

Oh good I'm glad they know the reason for the eye inflammation. We will probably never know the reason for the loss, I wish they could tell us why these things happen but most of the time we don't know.

If you keep going with the Femara do e4d plus one, if you skip the Femara I'd just do e4d.

[sunstars]

Another unsuccessful cycle. Oh, I'm really getting impatient, sad and worried, I am 39 and really didn't expect ttc to take so long (more than 6 months now), since previous 3 times it took 1-3 cycles.
Overall we tried one attempt for 3 cycles, e4d (every 72 hours) for 2 cycles, e4d+one attempt for 1 cycle (ended with chemical pregnancy).
I'll do e4d plus one attempt this month and start taking Femara again, but I wonder if there anything wrong and do we need complete check-up with DH now, or we should just wait more.

[atomic sagebrush]

If DH is willing to be checked, a handful of times when people were struggling it was due to a low sperm count. If he's not willing we could try adding in fertility vitamins for him, sometimes these help (but may sway blue)

[sunstars]

DH is 34 actually, does this change things? Probably I should be checked first, right? My standard gynecological check-up half a year ago revealed no problems.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, it doesn't make any difference, a man can have male factor infertilty at any age.

Standard checkups don't reveal anything, it has to be fertilty based. I do want you to be VERY prepared for the appointment, they are often exceedingly discouraging about chances of pregnancy for women over 35 and will say things that you may not want to hear and are very likely not true anyway. Remember, you were not pulling out all the stops to get pregnant at first and so you really haven't been trying trying as long as you think (altho it's fine to say that you have been to the doctors.)

My concern is that you're going to go in there, get told all kinds of upsetting stuff, be scared silly, and then end up right back here again anyway still trying. That's what has happened with virtually everyone that has gone to the doctor. The doctors honestly don't have that much to offer most of us - it's either IVF or keep trying. They can sometimes rule out causes of recurrent miscarriages, though. So if you can be at peace with that, then by all means go in, but if that's only going to bum you out, just know that you haven't even really yet begun to try - we still have lots of things to try that will most likely eventually end at BFP.

[sunstars]

Thank you so much, yes, I'm afraid of what you said, and also I am very disappointed in doctors right now, plus it's gonna cost lots of money, time, and nerves, so I'm really reluctant, but there is a small fear that if there is a real problem, I may be losing time. On the other hand, from my experience, if doctors learn that you already have children, they don't really care that much if you will have more. Even many of my relatives think I better stop and be happy with what I have. I conceived naturally and easily my first at 34, then 35 and 37 (modi twins, whom I lost due to complicated pregnancy and premature labor at 28 weeks).
Anyway, I needed reassurance that it's not that crazy idea to wait some more before handling myself to doctors. I think I'm going to wait at least 3 more cycles. The first two cycles I'll do e4d+one attempt. Then probably I should add more attempts. I was on one month break of Femara after taking it for 3 months, so I'll start taking it again. I am pretty loose on diet past month, although never was really counting anything. I did loose 10kg in first few months and don't change much in weight for several months now. I drink 1-2 cups of coffee (never had coffee before swaying), only recently started to drink small amount of alcohol. I did reduce diary in past year or two (not intentionally), mainly have cheese, and I kind of have nagging feeling that I should have some. I eat eggs and some (usually white) meet a few times per week.
I'll be happy to hear what you would recommend to change or do. Thanks again for your time, care and thoughts.

[atomic sagebrush]

That sounds like a solid plan to me - back on Femara, another month on e4d plus one, and then we'll go to Smep.

I would def. be sure you're doing the full fat dairy every day. Cheese is ok if you like it, or you can have milk or yogurt or even whipped cream and butter! You just may need a little more fat.

also apologies if I already mentioned this, but you're not doing shallow release, are you?? I find that to be something that has really prevented conception and it is not proven to help anyway, so if you were, I'd let that go. Try laying down for 15 minutes and spend part of that time on your tummy.

[sunstars]

Not only I didn't get pregnant, but my af today started first thing in the morning, and since I was swaying it was starting late in the afternoon or evening. I did get loose with diet and may have gained back couple of pounds.
We never did shallow release, and previous 3-4 months each time I lied down at least for an hour up to overnight (part of the time on my stomach).
So the 4th round of Femara and e4d+1 didn't work, although I must say I was sick (cold/flue) again around possible implantation times. Should we do the same for this coming cycle? The one previous time when we did e4d+1 I got bfp, but ended with chemical.

[Verena]

Sunstars I'm sorry af arrived! At least we can almost be femara cycle buddies this month. I'm on cd5 today. And maybe af arriving first thing in the morning doesn't necessarily mean that you got more set for a boy. Since being on LE diet for some months my af arrives first thing in the morning as well. So early that I have to wear a tampon that night because otherwise I would be afraid of bleeding into the bed. This is a completely new pattern for me so I decided to see it in a way "different is good" as af arrived during day time when I got my boys, although it's not what most other swayer's describe.

Good luck for this coming cycle! [emoji173]️

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[atomic sagebrush]

I would still do e4d plus one. I would not want to go to SMEP yet since that may be more blue friendly than e4d plus one.

You are starting e4d after AF ends, and continuing on even after you think you've ovulated, right??? e4d needs to go on and on for the whole month to be effective. Otherwise you can still end up missing O!