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[Momma bear 4]

What are you talking about atomic. We all just saying our opinions. I didnt refer anything to you. You in the other hand posting in my threads how things is debunked how this and that is not true just because things hasnt been true for others. Everyone has their opinion. So please stop I am not picking fights with you.

Anyone can start getting pregnant again as soon as they want whenever they feel mentally and physically ready. You dont have to like my opinions. But I will answer peoples questions and share what has worked for me. Whats wrong with that? Not saying that what worked for me it will work for everyone but if they asking I will be happy to answer instead of oh no we all have found out that is not true dont waste your time because it didnt work for us.

I speak for myself not for everyone. Stop disrespecting me. You think I am been snobby because I dont change my opinion to agree with yours then thats your opinion. I never disrespected in any way like you are doing with me. Get a grip. Is okay for you not to like other opinions but dont expect me to shut up mine and just go with the flow oh yeah is been debunked and this and that.

Like I said I have my own opinion. Lastly I dont think this is the time and place to discuss this. You could of simple had sent me a message instead of using someones thread which is rude dont you think?

This is ridiculous!

[mommymachine]

I’m so sorry. I’ve had 3 miscarriages. Two were back to back, and then the very next month I got pregnant with my beautiful and healthy double rainbow baby girl. Who is now 4 years old.

Then my 3rd came in July 2015. We started trying right away but didn’t get pregnant until October. That gave me my DD3. We were trying for late February, but ended up with our third June baby. I was a bit disappointed with having another due in June at first, but now it doesn’t matter at all, and we just make it work [emoji4] don’t get me wrong though, I completely understand where you are coming from. I still want to avoid June when we try for number 7! I just wanted to share my story and give you big hugs!!!


Mommy to 6 little blessings.

Hoping to try for #7 in 2019

[atomic sagebrush]

What are you talking about atomic. We all just saying our opinions. I didnt refer anything to you. You in the other hand posting in my threads how things is debunked how this and that is not true just because things hasnt been true for others. Everyone has their opinion. So please stop I am not picking fights with you.

Anyone can start getting pregnant again as soon as they want whenever they feel mentally and physically ready. You dont have to like my opinions. But I will answer peoples questions and share what has worked for me. Whats wrong with that? Not saying that what worked for me it will work for everyone but if they asking I will be happy to answer instead of oh no we all have found out that is not true dont waste your time because it didnt work for us.

I speak for myself not for everyone. Stop disrespecting me. You think I am been snobby because I dont change my opinion to agree with yours then thats your opinion. I never disrespected in any way like you are doing with me. Get a grip. Is okay for you not to like other opinions but dont expect me to shut up mine and just go with the flow oh yeah is been debunked and this and that.

Like I said I have my own opinion. Lastly I dont think this is the time and place to discuss this. You could of simple had sent me a message instead of using someones thread which is rude dont you think?

This is ridiculous!

I talk to people every day, hundreds of them, from all around the world, with different opinions than me. I've done it for years and rarely have a problem with people. As I say at least 10 times a day, it is YOUR sway, YOUR way. People wanna use other sway tactics? Cool, let's figure out the best way to do that! You think coffee sways blue? Don't drink coffee! Doesn't change the fact that 21 of 23 people got girls with 3 or more cups of coffee a day.

You can say whatever you want in the forums, and think whatever you want, but I have to correct misinformation when it's posted (and I will). I answer every question posted with my opinion, because I'm the forum leader. It's what I'm here for. Some people choose to portray that as me "stifling disagreement" but it is because I want people's sways to work for them and so I prefer to stick with what works and is safe and leaves people a chance of getting pregnant. Someone coming along giving info that misleads people into doing something that directly undermines their sways, their happiness, or their sanity, I have to say something. It's my job to do that. Push back if you want to.

It has NOTHING to do with disagreement. I don't appreciate the snarky tone and the implied eye roll and acting like I am deliberately misleading people or trying to harm them or wreck their sways and it was in several threads all right in a row. I was not imagining that. I didn't start anything with you, I was just doing my normal daily routine. Didn't have a care in the world. Barely even knew your username. But when I get snarky remarks, I detect and react to them and when they all come from the same person all right in a row I start to wonder what the deal is.

This is what your posts have sounded like to me: "Yeah right whatever atomic, all the other sites say this, and you're telling people to go against their doctors, and some things are true for other people and not everyone (never said different, BTW, none of these things are magic bullets) and basically I would just like to make the point crystal clear that you don't know what you're talking about and I think you're pretty stupid." Now maybe that wasn't your officially stated intention but I kinda think it was the point you were trying to get across. Message received. Start your own site then. Or go someplace else. The Internet is a BIG place, room for everyone here. But I don't need to read this stuff in my day. Makes me unhappy in case you hadn't figured it out and I prefer to save my energy for the 99.99% of people who are on this site who don't make me unhappy, and my children.

I am a human being with actual feelings and emotions and I really do work hard for you guys - to keep you safe and healthy, for your sways to succeed, and to offer emotional support in the face of gender disappointment and losses. That is what I do every day with joy in my heart to be able to do it, and I don't deserve someone tossing out little nasty remarks, when all I am doing is trying to help people.

I don't play games where I private message people behind the scenes to tell them what to say and what not to say. I deal with people openly in the forums when they post openly in the forums. Don't start nothing, won't be nothing. There are plenty of other sites out there that agree with your opinions. Go to one of them. Or start your own site. Or stay here. I don't hold grudges and I would be happy to help anyone but I don't like thinly veiled passive aggressive comments smacking me in the face when I'm just trying to go about my business.

[atomic sagebrush]

I believe I read that somewhere,about women being unstable to try again. everything I’ve been reading online says it’s usually better to try earlier. I have a lot of concerns, mostly pertaining to my sway prior to my bfp as well as during the short time I was pregnant. Before my bfp Diet was a little wishy washy, and excersize was also pretty much non existent. Then for the short amount of time that I was pregnant I was on a very blue friendly diet. So I feel like from Christmas on, I was just not on my A game for my sway. I’m definitely torn because I’m finding myself wanting to try this next cycle but feeling like I kind of ruined my sway. Today it hit me like a ton of bricks that I’m so not wanting to wait the three months, but definitely do not want to be due in November. I’m just feeling torn. We were so excited to be having a September baby, we felt it was perfect timing. I think if it ends up when the next egg drops that I’d be due in October I’d be ok with trying again. I just really hope the month or so off of my sway won’t be of any concern.
Thank you again for your advice atomic, I do really appreciate it!

Remember, though, I really think you were worrying about nothing with your sway. Usually when people think their sway was not good, they are making it out to be worse than it really was. Follow your heart and if you find it gives you peace of mind to try sooner, that's fine with me. But if you will live 1000 lifetimes of regret if you try and get an opposite, then by all means wait. I just didn't want you to think you HAD to wait because the 3 months thing is really falling by the wayside for most doctors where early uncomplicated losses are concerned.

[Momma bear 4]

I talk to people every day, hundreds of them, from all around the world, with different opinions than me. I've done it for years and rarely have a problem with people. As I say at least 10 times a day, it is YOUR sway, YOUR way. People wanna use other sway tactics? Cool, let's figure out the best way to do that! You think coffee sways blue? Don't drink coffee! Doesn't change the fact that 21 of 23 people got girls with 3 or more cups of coffee a day.

You can say whatever you want in the forums, and think whatever you want, but I have to correct misinformation when it's posted (and I will). I answer every question posted with my opinion, because I'm the forum leader. It's what I'm here for. Some people choose to portray that as me "stifling disagreement" but it is because I want people's sways to work for them and so I prefer to stick with what works and is safe and leaves people a chance of getting pregnant. Someone coming along giving info that misleads people into doing something that directly undermines their sways, their happiness, or their sanity, I have to say something. It's my job to do that. Push back if you want to.

It has NOTHING to do with disagreement. I don't appreciate the snarky tone and the implied eye roll and acting like I am deliberately misleading people or trying to harm them or wreck their sways and it was in several threads all right in a row. I was not imagining that. I didn't start anything with you, I was just doing my normal daily routine. Didn't have a care in the world. Barely even knew your username. But when I get snarky remarks, I detect and react to them and when they all come from the same person all right in a row I start to wonder what the deal is.

This is what your posts have sounded like to me: "Yeah right whatever atomic, all the other sites say this, and you're telling people to go against their doctors, and some things are true for other people and not everyone (never said different, BTW, none of these things are magic bullets) and basically I would just like to make the point crystal clear that you don't know what you're talking about and I think you're pretty stupid." Now maybe that wasn't your officially stated intention but I kinda think it was the point you were trying to get across. Message received. Start your own site then. Or go someplace else. The Internet is a BIG place, room for everyone here. But I don't need to read this stuff in my day. Makes me unhappy in case you hadn't figured it out and I prefer to save my energy for the 99.99% of people who are on this site who don't make me unhappy, and my children.

I am a human being with actual feelings and emotions and I really do work hard for you guys - to keep you safe and healthy, for your sways to succeed, and to offer emotional support in the face of gender disappointment and losses. That is what I do every day with joy in my heart to be able to do it, and I don't deserve someone tossing out little nasty remarks, when all I am doing is trying to help people.

I don't play games where I private message people behind the scenes to tell them what to say and what not to say. I deal with people openly in the forums when they post openly in the forums. Don't start nothing, won't be nothing. There are plenty of other sites out there that agree with your opinions. Go to one of them. Or start your own site. Or stay here. I don't hold grudges and I would be happy to help anyone but I don't like thinly veiled passive aggressive comments smacking me in the face when I'm just trying to go about my business.

Wow you really like to twist my words. Do you think long replies changes anything? Listen, at the end of the day you will think the same and so will I.

So really I dont see a point to why you are trying to bash me for. No where did I said hey dont listen to atomic or said those words that you said. Dont put words in my mouth that I didnt say. Let people decide what they want to believe or not. I no where said oh you should believe me instead of atomic. No did I? No where did I even mention your name. And never did I went on peoples threads to start a long conversation about our disagreement. I never even notice we had one. Until you started getting all pissy. You have went and wrote me lomg replies in all these threads. Thats out of porportion.

To refresh your memory I simply said my opinion and I just let it be up to them to decide. I never said oh dont listen to her.

Once again I simply shared my experience. Look at the way you coming at me and making really long unecessary replies for no reason. I am sure you never had nobody speak up like the way I have but I wont let you lie and say things about me that arent true. Dont sit here and lie that I attacked you. I replied unintentionally in what 3 threads that you were in. Like if I purposely looked for specific threads just because you were in them just to attack you come on seriously. Enough of this foolishness and admit you took it out of porportion and know how to apologize and let go. It was never my intention to do the things that you accusing me of.

So since you have brought this up upon yourself, will there still be a Old Wives Tales and Symptom Guessing and a gender prediction forum for ramzi,nub theory or anything like that or no because it has been debunked and because you dont believe in OWT. Many of us would still like to get some guesses and of course we know is just that a "guess:. ( to ease your mind put a disclaimer that is just a guess) Please enough of your long replies. And again I dont think this is the place to discuss this especially in someones thread.

Hope this ends this silliness of yours and go about your way. I wont engage is this unnecessary drama of yours anymore. Makes you sound insecure.

Just because you own this site gives you no right to call anyone stupid just because they dont think the same as you. I am glad you putting this all out here for everyone to see how you really are.

Have yourself a great day!

[ksmom]

I think you need to reread Atomic's reply because she never called you stupid. You actually have been giving people false information (you may not have done it deliberately though) by telling people "coffee sways boy" because you got a boy with it and because other sites say so and saying breastfeeding doesn't sway either way. Based on our stats here, which go back for several years, we have found this to not be true and there is a lot of science to back up our pink sway tactics. Just because your own personal experience doesn't fit exactly with the pink or blue sways we have here, does not mean they don't work. The evidence you're basing your observations on with swaying is anecdotal.

[Momma bear 4]

How is it false information? Because is a personal experience? Where is proof that it sways only pink?. Literally you cant drink or not drink coffee and expect to get a specific gender is more to it like I said before. And no where did I called her stupid so why she even saying that. Also about breastfeeding where is proof it sways only girl. They are threads on here where they have been ladies that been breastfeeding and have had boys so again where is proof that it only sways girl.

When someone asks why coffee supposedly sways girl and tea sways boy. She didnt had a valid explanation to back it up. She said: "Keeping in mind that this is sheer speculation on my part because we don't have the research yet"
So no I am not giving people false information. I just said what happend in my experience. Let me clarify this whatever scientific studies you have found doesnt mean is going to work for everyone. Just like what sway worked for me doesnt mean it will work for someone else. But when someone asks what worked for us we going to answer with our personal experiences. Whats wrong with that? Is it because it doesnt coincide with your scientific research? How long are we going to keep going back and forth with this. Enough is enough.

[sunstars]

Prayingforagil67, I'm so sorry for your loss. I also just had an early miscarriage (saw a few faint bfps, which didn't get darker, and started bleeding a few days later). To say the truth, I took it much easier this time, and wanted to try as soon as possible. I lost my twin girls 15 months ago (28 weekers), and it took me 10 months to somewhat heal emotionally and physically and want to try again, and if not my age (just turned 39) I may have waited longer. And after 5 months of trying, I had this chemical, so I don't want to waste more time. By the way, I think I ovulated a few days earlier than usual if to count first day of bleeding as cd1. So I may have had not a good timed attempt. Just wanted to share my story and warn you to be attentive to not miss your ovulation if you decide to try this month. They say it may happen earlier, in time, or later, so you never know. Hugs.

Momma bear 4, I was following your "discussion" and hardly keeping myself from engaging, but this last comment of yours... you sound like a complete "newbie" to this site. Please read just a few of the main essays of atomic, explanations and statistics (or simply read couple of threads other than gender prediction by OWT or ramzi) of this site and only then argue with her. She is in swaying for more than 7 years, and has gone waaay more than just mentioning her own experience.

[Momma bear 4]

Sunstars- I never wanted to argue she the one that started going after me. I am only speaking for myself. I am not going to sit here to who has more knowledge or experience. But if you want to know I have swayed for my first 3 kids with success with my own research. My last two I didnt sway. I speak from my experiences. But that doesn't matter right? This is getting beyond ridiculous. I have not only read those forums but I have been reading other peoples threads and experiences as well.

[ksmom]

How is it false information? Because is a personal experience? Where is proof that it sways only pink?. Literally you cant drink or not drink coffee and expect to get a specific gender is more to it like I said before. And no where did I called her stupid so why she even saying that. Also about breastfeeding where is proof it sways only girl. They are threads on here where they have been ladies that been breastfeeding and have had boys so again where is proof that it only sways girl.

When someone asks why coffee supposedly sways girl and tea sways boy. She didnt had a valid explanation to back it up. She said: "Keeping in mind that this is sheer speculation on my part because we don't have the research yet"
So no I am not giving people false information. I just said what happend in my experience. Let me clarify this whatever scientific studies you have found doesnt mean is going to work for everyone. Just like what sway worked for me doesnt mean it will work for someone else. But when someone asks what worked for us we going to answer with our personal experiences. Whats wrong with that? Is it because it doesnt coincide with your scientific research? How long are we going to keep going back and forth with this. Enough is enough.

I think you're missing the point. By saying that coffee, breastfeeding, or whatever sways, we're not saying that if you do those things a girl/boy is guaranteed. We're saying that it HELPS sway one way or another. A group of scientists coming to the conclusion that coffee can help reduce the risk of type II diabetes doesn't mean that we're all saved from ever getting diabetes. It just means it helps protect us from it and that is important. Deny it all you want but we have the studies and the stats to back up a lot of our findings. Have you looked at our stats spreadsheet? If most of the people who had lots of coffee got girls over the years of this site being open, then I think it's safe to say there's a link between the two. You don't have to agree with the facts. There's nothing wrong with sharing personal experiences, but you were not just sharing your experiences, you were telling people based on your own anecdotal evidence that coffee sways boy and they shouldn't drink it. THAT is spreading false information. We did NOT say that breastfeeding can only sway girl. You can read an essay about it here as to why in some cases it can sway boy, but that typically it helps sway girl because of the underlying mechanisms. Swaying never, ever comes down to one single thing. Neil DeGrasse Tyson himself once said that "the good thing about science is that, it's true whether or not you believe in it." Many of the swaying tactics we have here are based on scientific evidence from studies done by actual scientists. Over the years, Atomic has weeded out what has and has not worked (like pH or timing) based on research on those studies and from ladies here posting their sways in the spreadsheet so over time, those things were dropped. It is clear you don't agree with any of the swaying tactics here and just want to argue so as a moderator here, I think you may be happier going to another site that fits what you believe.