NTNP and some other questions

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes but it's only for 3 days after the last dose. You won't ovulate till 5 days after the last dose at the very earliest so you don't really need to worry about the false positive OPKs.

What I would do is have you BD that 4th or 5th day after your last dose of Femara just to cover you for a couple of days, and start OPK as well. Then if you do end up getting another positive within 2 days, stick with the attempt you have had. If 4 days or longer, then have another attempt. If you are in the middle (3 days) then if you want a higher chance of conception but possibly lower chance of pink, have another attempt. If you prefer higher chance of pink but lower chance of conception, stick with the attempt you've had.

If you prefer to do e4d that's fine too. But keep in mind you don't have to get THAT OCD about the e4d pattern. The point is simply having regular unprotected sex that's at least 3 days apart (so Monday/Thursday pattern, not those days but that many days apart). So let's say hubby is being stubborn and it gets to be e4 or 6 or even 7 days. STILL have attempt! There is no sway magic to the e4d pattern, it is fine to have the attempts farther. It will be lower odds of conception, of course, but it does NOT sway blue to do attempts farther apart!!

[Verena]

Yes but it's only for 3 days after the last dose. You won't ovulate till 5 days after the last dose at the very earliest so you don't really need to worry about the false positive OPKs.

What I would do is have you BD that 4th or 5th day after your last dose of Femara just to cover you for a couple of days, and start OPK as well. Then if you do end up getting another positive within 2 days, stick with the attempt you have had. If 4 days or longer, then have another attempt. If you are in the middle (3 days) then if you want a higher chance of conception but possibly lower chance of pink, have another attempt. If you prefer higher chance of pink but lower chance of conception, stick with the attempt you've had.

If you prefer to do e4d that's fine too. But keep in mind you don't have to get THAT OCD about the e4d pattern. The point is simply having regular unprotected sex that's at least 3 days apart (so Monday/Thursday pattern, not those days but that many days apart). So let's say hubby is being stubborn and it gets to be e4 or 6 or even 7 days. STILL have attempt! There is no sway magic to the e4d pattern, it is fine to have the attempts farther. It will be lower odds of conception, of course, but it does NOT sway blue to do attempts farther apart!!

Thank you so much atomic! Sounds like a great plan to have an attempt some days after the last dose to be covered just in case. I hope this will work out since today DH woke up with the men flue...[emoji51]

I am on CD8 today and still slightly bleeding/spotting. Is this ok after the chemical or should I be concerned? Seeing my doc on Friday anyway, he wants to check if the possible polypous tissue on my lining is gone and see how many follicles are growing. So I guess I will just wait until that appointment and hope the bleeding stops in the mean time?

And I had a huge freak out yesterday. I made the mistake to google for that study that showed that more girls are conceived on femara. I found the study but I also saw hundereds of threads on message boards where people were saying they conceived boys on femara. Way more than girls. I panicked and searched sways here on gender dreaming and counted them. I could find 8 successful girl sways and 6 with opposites. I know, not really high numbers to be statistically significant, but that would be way lower than the overall success rate of this site. So I really can't help the feeling that maybe this study was just a fluke? Can you calm me down a little bit on this?

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[atomic sagebrush]

It is just fine, you start regrowing your lining from the inside out so even when you're still actively bleeding your lining is already 2/5 through 3/5 of the way formed for the next cycle.

OF COURSE people get boys on Femara. I really cannot stress strongly enough how bad an idea it is to Google these things. First of all people get boys on Femara because they are NOT SWAYING and in fact are doing tons of things to boost fertility, all of which sway blue. People are taking Femara because they are having fertility issues, not because they are swaying! And secondly, the reason why most people take Femara is for PCOS and PCOS sways blue anyway.

We know Femara sways pink because of that study (and NO I don't think it is a fluke) and also our own results. There are hundreds of people who sway with me who don't post in the spreadsheet for every one who does and I think our statistics are pretty much complete crap. I have seen plenty of people get girls with Femara or I would not recommend it.

I have spent hours a day for 10 years now studying these things, reading posts and studies, seeing people's sways, etc. I would not tell you to use Femara if I did not believe in it.

[Verena]

I didn't mean to question your knowledge and recommendations at all, I'm sorry if I made that impression! I just had a freak out moment and was not of sane mind anymore I guess. Thanks for setting me straight, that was just what I needed. I was secretly hoping that you would write exactly this, that you have by far more cases than can be seen in the public post your sway forum.

Thank you again for all your help and support and sharing all your wisdom! [emoji4][emoji173]️

It is just fine, you start regrowing your lining from the inside out so even when you're still actively bleeding your lining is already 2/5 through 3/5 of the way formed for the next cycle.

OF COURSE people get boys on Femara. I really cannot stress strongly enough how bad an idea it is to Google these things. First of all people get boys on Femara because they are NOT SWAYING and in fact are doing tons of things to boost fertility, all of which sway blue. People are taking Femara because they are having fertility issues, not because they are swaying! And secondly, the reason why most people take Femara is for PCOS and PCOS sways blue anyway.

We know Femara sways pink because of that study (and NO I don't think it is a fluke) and also our own results. There are hundreds of people who sway with me who don't post in the spreadsheet for every one who does and I think our statistics are pretty much complete crap. I have seen plenty of people get girls with Femara or I would not recommend it.

I have spent hours a day for 10 years now studying these things, reading posts and studies, seeing people's sways, etc. I would not tell you to use Femara if I did not believe in it.

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[atomic sagebrush]

No not at all, that was meant to be reassuring. I meant "if atomic has studied it all this time and she thinks it sways pink then it probably does" kind of thing, NOT "respect my authority" LOL. Sorry for the confusion!

[Verena]

Lol nooo I didn't understand it in a "respect my authority" way! Just in an a little bit annoyed way, with good reason. You just want the best for your swayers and then there is someone like me whom you tell the same things again and again and who still doesn't seem to believe but panicks over some random google results instead.

I really don't know what was going on. Please don't beat me but I even thought about skipping this month [emoji85] maybe femara messed up my mind. BUT I'm fine now and really excited about what will happen within the next days!

It's the second day after the last dose of femara and my opks are negative. Can I assume if they get positive now, it's a real positive? I have a follicle check tomorrow, so I hope that will give me a clue when I will roughly ovulate as well.

No not at all, that was meant to be reassuring. I meant "if atomic has studied it all this time and she thinks it sways pink then it probably does" kind of thing, NOT "respect my authority" LOL. Sorry for the confusion!

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[atomic sagebrush]

No not annoyed at all! I answer a lot of posts really fast most days and sometimes my replies are a little more...ahem..."brief"...than they should be.

Yes I'd assume that they are the real deal from here on in. But DO pick it up with e4d after your pos OPK attempt, just to cover yourself in case of delayed ovulaton. So have an attempt at positive OPK, then start counting every 4 days after that so you'll always have something there to greet the egg, even if she is fashionably late.

[Verena]

My doc saw a 20 mm follicle this morning and said, ovulation will be today or tomorrow?? [emoji50] It's CD11 and my opks are far from being positive. So I guess I'll try to make my ntnp hubby to bd tonight? I hope he's up to bd'ing! [emoji33]

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[atomic sagebrush]

AAa yes have him BD tonight ASAP if possible!! FXFXFX!!!

I DO want to mention that docs are not infallible, so it makes some sense to me to have another attempt CD 14 as well to cover in case the doctor is incorrect. If it's possible, I'd have you do that.

[Verena]

I ended up with only this attempt on CD11 because hubby was still a bit sick yesterday. Opk was positive at 7 am on CD13 (was neg at 5 am so I'm pretty sure it was a real positive), but my temps are not so clear. At least I'm quite sure I've ovulated yesterday in the latest case giving me an O-3 attempt. I know, not too good odds of conception...

My doc prescribed me progesterone but I'm not sure if there's a point in taking it. I have a 13 day luteal phase so I don't think prog is the problem? What do you think about this? When I miscarried last month my prog was at 16 on 11 dpo, and my doc found this too low but I would assume that it was so low because something was wrong with the pregnancy, not vice versa?

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