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    All foods are allowed within LE Diet limits. I'm not going to go through every food you can think of and tell you it's ok - I went over the important things already and if you read my answer again you'll see I really did give you an answer on things like olive oil (vegetable based fats are best, this includes olive oil) chocolate (it has sugar and since it's not necessary for survival, prob. best avoided) etc. Yogurt is fine, even though generally it does have some sugar the benefits outweigh the sugar in it. These kind of questions would drown me if everyone asked "is this food ok? is this food ok?" so if we could let that go now I'd really appreciate it.

    Everyone trying to conceive needs to limit fish to 2x a week max due to risks of mercury. This has nothing to do with swaying, this is for safety, and again, all foods are fine in limits. Tofu is fine, again I think it best for reasons of safety to keep it at 2-3 times per week since higher intake soy has been tentatively linked to birth defects and we dont' know how long the effects might last.

    I think you will do best on LE Diet with limits at 1500-1800 cals a day, 50-60 g protein and fat. You don't count protein and fat in fruits and veg, and low carb veg are free and unlimited.

    I know the folate say to take just one but that is advice for the general population and not for people who are swaying and may have lower egg quality. Many people trying to conceive take more than that. Most everyone on here takes 1200, 1600, or 2000 mcg a day by taking those smaller dose folates several times across the day for best absorption.

    I would start off with one of the olive leafs a day and if he tolerates them ok (no headaches, bleeding or bruising, upset stomach) you can increase that up to 2.

    DH does not need to follow the full diet but if he were to cut back on red meat, all meat, even go vegetarian or vegan that may help.
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    Thank you so much for all your time!
    I was wondering if you think I should take vitex?
    Also as DH's sperm quality is good maybe he should take liquorice root or cranberry and me consider lowering PH? (Last time I swayed both our PHs were very high)

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    No, you must not take vitex or any other herb for swaying. You can't take the chance of cutting your fertility and the herbs have not worked anyway.

    No, hubby should not take licorice root (it has gotten terrible results) and neither of you should take cranberry. DH is taking OLE already, yes?? It is cranberry OR OLE, not both, and OLE has gotten much better results. For you, cranberry is not safe, i"ve never recommended it due to the risks and side effects which are major, and additionally when we tracked it in our results we saw that it did absolutely nothing for swaying.

    pH probably doesn't work for swaying. It certainly doesn't work in the way that other sites claim and is based on a theory originally from the 1800's that Dr. Shettles revived. Dr. Shettles claimed that X sperm lived a long time and Y sperm swam fast but died quickly, and he was 100% wrong about that and X and Y sperm have been proven to live the same time and swim the same speed.

    You can read about Dr. Shettles' mistake here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html

    And read the scientific case against pH here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ph-pickle.html

    I have to stress to you again that time is not on our side here. We have to do the things that actually work (diet, exercise, one attempt, Femara, possibly OLE for DH) and let go of all the stuff that has been debunked (including herbs and pH) Because if you can't get pregnant you have ZERO chance of a DD! When I started off swaying I was with a group of ladies in their late 30's to early 40's (as was I) and some of them were doing all this stuff for swaying. Many of them ended up not getting pregnant at all and still do not have a baby to this very day. It is really a thing that has actually happened to people and it just doens't make any sense to me to cling to these ideas that science and our experiences have shown to be completely ineffective, all of which cut odds of conception hugely.
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    I totally appreciate everything you are saying. It just doesn't feel that much for me to do. Really and truly it is pretty much the same lifestyle for me (minus breakfast, almond milk and oatmeal). The only add is the aspartame, one attempt at dtd and the Femara (and for DH to cut red meat and add OLE). Let's hope that's enough to do the trick! I am not wasting time. I just got my period today and will begin right away (I tried last month but ended up dtd too early I think). Just checking - any reason not to orgasm or jump and dump and what do you think about taking melatonin? Also what is the femara actually for? Does it sway?
    Thanks!
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    Hey, the Femara is the biggest thing of all! YES it sways, and it's the best of the best tactic there is.

    I know it feels like "we're barely doing anything" but remember most of the people walking around out there on the earth aren't doing 9 zillion cray things but yet get a boy and a girl without even thinking about it. it's supposed to be easy, if it weren't there would not be so many pigeon pairs in the world.

    The old school sway gurus believed female orgasm swayed blue. We avoid them just because, but I doubt they are very strong sway tactics. Do not do jump and dump. It will cut odds of conception too far. I'd have you lay flat 10-15 minutes. I got my daughter at 41 with female O and without jump and dump so I promise it's possible to get a girl that way.

    No melatonin. While it is beneficial for egg qualtiy, it may cause developmental delays when taken during pregnancy and we don't know how long it stays in your system. And you can't just stop taking it since your body needs some melatonin to stay pregnant, and stopping excess melatonin may mess up your body and make less able to sustain a pregnancy. The only time I ever recommend melatonin is when people are doing egg retrieval for freezing eggs and will not be pregnant in the same month their eggs are retrieved.
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    Hi, I was just wondering, are any of my sway tactics just AF-O or are they all through the month?
    (I skip breakfast, cut sugar, do exercise, take 800 folate and 600 ubiquinol, aspartame, only one attempt at dtd. DH cut down red meat and takes OLE 2x a day).
    Also can you remind me how much and when to take femara? I want to check I am doing it right. (It is the same as letrozole right?)
    Thank you!
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    Those are all to be done all month long. At BFP you should wean off ubiquinol and have DH wean off OLE. Space doses further and further out till you're down to one per week, then drop them.

    Folate you should take all thru the first trimester of pregnancy and then gradually wean off to the amount in your prenatal by spacing doses (this should take about 3-4 weeks). I would have you on 1600 mcg or even 2400 given your age.

    2.5 mg Femara on CD 3-7 (5 days total)
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    Thank you! Low blood sugar all month too? (Ie space out meals and no snacking) I am taking progesterone from o-af and it makes me hungry and crave sweet food ����*♀️

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    It's fine to add in an extra meal while on the progesterone but I would NOT go off diet totally or start snacking all day every day.
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