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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther View Post
    We need atomic to talk us down lol. I'll sit here and lecture women on OWTs and biorhythms then in the same breath do that stupid ring test over my belly lol (which said boy incidentally haha).

    I've talked about it before with people, but one day I want to really delve into why even the most logical of women can go full woo in pregnancy. So much myth and magic around it all still!!
    Yea it is funny! Every great once in awhile I'll go on and check Chinese gender charts for the months I'm trying to conceive - even though I've NEVER found a version of it that was right for both of my boys!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4blue2pink View Post
    just to fuel the "full woo" fire.. the ring test has very weirdly been right for every one of my kids, it said boy even when i desperately wanted girls, it said girl when i truly believed i couldn't have girls and was convinced they were boys and was also spot on for my youngest which was my team green baby boy!! i know its bullsh*t and would never go buying pink or blue off it but it is interesting and i feel i have to do it each time haha did you do it with your daughter? i so so hope its right for you this time

    im fairly certain ramzi is left=right on an external scan pic and left=left on an internal scan pic, but even ramzi himself has guessed wrong a lot!! so i wouldnt trust it!!

    there will always be myth and magic around pregnancy i think the wonderful thing about babies, is babies are magical things hows everything going TP? will you be finding out gender with the NIPT test?
    Haha, I never actually did it with my DD because I thought it was so ridiculous-- which shows how far gone I was the other day!! We'll definitely do an NIPT because of so many losses, so I'd want to make sure this baby's viable. I'm actually becoming torn on gender. I think I'm in a "it's probably a girl and I'll just be insanely depressed all pregnancy," so why not just not find out? But ugh. Idk.

    And I found a study that showed the ring test had women actually subconsciously moved their muscles in their hands that twitched the ring/string! And I did find the study disproving Ramzi, too. Though I read too that Ramzi is where the placenta is supposed to be in relation to baby, not the fetal pole in the sac?! I've seen BOTH be termed Ramzi. Why did I do this to myself? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABC.2606 View Post
    LOL interesting! Amazing how many women have gotten all caught up in & crazy about one unpublished study!!!!
    Yes I felt like an utter idiot when I realized that, because it was just such a THING (even dating back ten years now) that I guess I assumed it was always a legit study...I'd even read the study but just not realized that it hadn't been published anywhere! Such a major red flag!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABC.2606 View Post
    Yea it is funny! Every great once in awhile I'll go on and check Chinese gender charts for the months I'm trying to conceive - even though I've NEVER found a version of it that was right for both of my boys!!
    don't tell me things like that LOL

    No seriously - the Chinese Gender Chart so messed with my head with DS 3! I didn't even have a gender preference until I checked that darn chart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther View Post
    Haha, I never actually did it with my DD because I thought it was so ridiculous-- which shows how far gone I was the other day!! We'll definitely do an NIPT because of so many losses, so I'd want to make sure this baby's viable. I'm actually becoming torn on gender. I think I'm in a "it's probably a girl and I'll just be insanely depressed all pregnancy," so why not just not find out? But ugh. Idk.

    And I found a study that showed the ring test had women actually subconsciously moved their muscles in their hands that twitched the ring/string! And I did find the study disproving Ramzi, too. Though I read too that Ramzi is where the placenta is supposed to be in relation to baby, not the fetal pole in the sac?! I've seen BOTH be termed Ramzi. Why did I do this to myself? lol
    As with the biorhythms, I find that the more ridiculously complex a theory is, the less likely it is to be legit. So like biorhythms are only correct IF you know your precise lunar birth date and the hour you conceived and etc etc etc but then other sites say the exact opposite, and Ramzi is only correct IF you know the true location of the placenta using some perfectly done ultrasound at precisely the right moment of the pregnancy...and then other sites will say the exact opposite.
    No one even knows what it's really supposed to be. The more complicated it is, the more open for interpretation it is, the less likely I think it is to be true. People just go thru and fiddle with their results till they get the biorhythm chart or the Ramzi interpretation to come out right and then tell people "oh wow this totally worked for me" and then whenever it doesn't, they think "oh that's because I figured it out wrong, let me refigure it out using a different lunar birth hour or different explanation of Ramzi", you know???
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    i completely understand wanting to know ASAP if baby is viable, i am hoping and praying for you to get all clear Nipt results so you can feel more relaxed and confident in this pregnancy

    as for gender.. do what feels right for you, ive always found out gender around 18-20 weeks except for with my youngest where i made the decision to go team green, it was a sway baby and given my history of horrific GD team green was probably the worst decision i could make right? but still i wanted to experience the surprise with at least 1 baby so i was determined to do it!! i told myself i wasnt finding out until the birth so i could either let GD destroy the pregnancy like it had with some of my previous babies or i could enjoy the pregnancy without GD playing a a part, because no amount of GD/hating every second of everything will change the outcome anyway.
    in the end i had an opposite, he is my 5th boy and the only one where i didnt have the pregnancy completely destroyed by GD, i am so so glad i didnt find out as i know full well what an "its a boy" pregnancy is like for me and i can honestly say it was nothing like that after finding out gender at his birth, its a slightly odd experience meeting a team green baby, its very much "so this is who you are!.." rather than the full blown hideous raging GD that the gender scans brought on for me.
    i know Atomic strongly advises against team green for anyone with GD and i completely understand why!! but for me it turned out to be the right decision for that baby.
    whatever you decide i have everything crossed for you and will keep an eye out for your updates!! xx
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    don't tell me things like that LOL

    No seriously - the Chinese Gender Chart so messed with my head with DS 3! I didn't even have a gender preference until I checked that darn chart.
    LOL you mean bc it's control freaky? Don't worry I'd never plan ttc around that and I've probably only checked it about 2 times in the past 2 years! I think I've mainly checked it bc I've tried to see if there is any version that was right for both of my boys and there just isn't! They all either say that one of them should have been a girl or both of them!

    That left ovulation study (the one with the 3 month pattern) trips me up way more than Chinese gender charts! And yet I KNOW girls can be conceived from the right!! Haha.
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    ABC ive never found any chart anywhere that is right for all mine!! they are fun to do though wouldnt non-identical twin girls come from ovulating both sides? i have no idea which side ive ovulated on for any month ever, but if i could find out i bet at least a couple of my kids would be from the "wrong" side for their gender
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    No no not at all, just because I know it is bogus and I know how much it messes with your heads!

    We just had somebody this week get a girl from the right! All these things are just curiosities.
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    It's funny, because in my crazed Ramzi searching, I found something that said women were just as likely to conceive any gender even when down to one tube or one ovary! So I think some of us really are putting way too much on it (I ovulated from my right with DD!). I was panicked because I think I O'd from my left based on pains from both sides, but more so from the left. But I actually had a cyst there during my FET so that left sided pain could still be from a cyst hanging out there from two months ago during IVF!

    Either way, I'm convinced it's a girl now like unshakably. And still no consistent increase of symptoms. I looked up my diary with DD and I was already a slave to nausea and food aversions by now!

    I will update you all with next scan this Wednesday. DH asked to come and now I am so scared of jinxing it

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