Due in June/ July/ August 2016

[nuthinbutpink]

I thought you had surgery to remove an ectopic? What treatment did you consent to?

[twointow83]

I thought you had surgery to remove an ectopic? What treatment did you consent to?

I did. They did laproscopic surgery but "couldn't find the pregnancy". I signed a release/consent for "surgical treatment of ectopic pregnancy" that had multiple procedures listed. They did the lapro surgery, a D&C and later that day, after I got out of recovery, I got two shots, one on each side (hip area), of the methotrexate.

[atomic sagebrush]

two, thank you SO much for putting it all together for us, I know it is unbelievably painful to go over it but it really helps us help others in the future.

[Boysboys]

Oh two. Can't say I'm sorry enough.

[twointow83]

two, thank you SO much for putting it all together for us, I know it is unbelievably painful to go over it but it really helps us help others in the future.

It's no problem... stating facts isn't what hurts... it's the emotion I get when I think of the hell Avery (we named bean) has gone through when he or she may well have been completely viable, and the the mind games that tear my heart apart and make me feel like I aborted my baby. Facts are just facts.

[nuthinbutpink]

With a HCG of 2,000, you can see evidence of a pregnancy. At 5,000-6,000, there would be a yolk sac and possible fetal pole.

There is a defined manner for diagnosing an ectopic pregnancy. They would do a D & C to test to see if you have pregnancy tissue in your uterus. It is almost always safer to have your doctor do a D & C to confirm the location of the pregnancy tissue rather than waiting to see what will happen. If there is no evidence of pregnancy tissue in the uterus, then they know you have an ectopic pregnancy and can treat it either using medication or surgery.

With that high of a HCG level, they can't NOT see something that was there in your uterus all along. If they did the laparoscopy, the ectopic would have been seen and they would have confirmed it was there....the pregnancy has to be somewhere that it can grow and produce that much HCG. If it was that high, it would be seen on u/s somewhere- either in the tube or in the uterus.

The D&C is done first to check for pregnancy tissue. If pregnancy tissue is found, you do not have an ectopic.

[twointow83]

With a HCG of 2,000, you can see evidence of a pregnancy. At 5,000-6,000, there would be a yolk sac and possible fetal pole.

There is a defined manner for diagnosing an ectopic pregnancy. They would do a D & C to test to see if you have pregnancy tissue in your uterus. It is almost always safer to have your doctor do a D & C to confirm the location of the pregnancy tissue rather than waiting to see what will happen. If there is no evidence of pregnancy tissue in the uterus, then they know you have an ectopic pregnancy and can treat it either using medication or surgery.

With that high of a HCG level, they can't NOT see something that was there in your uterus all along. If they did the laparoscopy, the ectopic would have been seen and they would have confirmed it was there....the pregnancy has to be somewhere that it can grow and produce that much HCG. If it was that high, it would be seen on u/s somewhere- either in the tube or in the uterus.

The D&C is done first to check for pregnancy tissue. If pregnancy tissue is found, you do not have an ectopic.

Seems kinda bass-ackwards to do a D&C to CHECK for an ectopic... *scratching head*

I've read and re-read the report at least a dozen times and the terminology makes me seriously doubt what I *THINK* I'm reading so DON'T take this as gospel but it looks *to me* as if it's saying the preg was ALWAYS inutero because it says there is a sac measuring such and such but then starts taking about my ovary and an ectopic... I really don't know...

[twointow83]

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[nuthinbutpink]

A D&C is really just a cavity evaluation. They don't actually have to go in and do anything other than take a tissue sample. If there are measurements present, I am not sure why there was ever a doubt about a uterine pregnancy.

If you had two eggs, it is possible one went in the tube BUT, they would have to 110% verify that it was in the tube before they did anything if a pregnancy was seen in your uterus. The pain could have simply been a cyst, especially after clomid. You can also rarely have an ectopic in your ovary...that would be seen on u/s though.

I don't know. If this all happened, it seems odd that nothing was verified before they just went in. There is a reason we have procedures that are followed, tests that are run. I would have a lot of questions for your doctor.

[twointow83]

A D&C is really just a cavity evaluation. They don't actually have to go in and do anything other than take a tissue sample. If there are measurements present, I am not sure why there was ever a doubt about a uterine pregnancy.

If you had two eggs, it is possible one went in the tube BUT, they would have to 110% verify that it was in the tube before they did anything if a pregnancy was seen in your uterus. The pain could have simply been a cyst, especially after clomid. You can also rarely have an ectopic in your ovary...that would be seen on u/s though.

I don't know. If this all happened, it seems odd that nothing was verified before they just went in. There is a reason we have procedures that are followed, tests that are run. I would have a lot of questions for your doctor.

Trust me. I do. and my best friend is coming with me in case I get too upset to continue asking questions. I'm going to have them wrote down and she'll finish asking and I'm going to record it so that no matter my emotional state I get the answers I want.