last shot at ttc a dd: tips on tweaking my sway?

[balt0038]

update after my doctor appt: he apparently sees no problem with my 10 day lp and thinks my regular cycles are a great sign for a future pregnancy. He said I could sure buy myself some progesterone cream if it makes me feel better, but he wouldn't recommend it as an effective option. He said I should bd every other day between cd 10 and 20 as my best shot for conception and feels confident I'll be pregnant within 6 months by doing this. But the sad thing is, I only have two more months max and I definitely want to err on the side of not doing boy-friendly things.

I'm sure that pretty much everyone who is ttc (and not swaying) is pretty much doing something close to bd every other day around fertile period, and so many end up dd's with this method. But pretty much everything you read about swaying for a dd doesn't recommend this, they talk about the one try at positive OPK, the O+12, the cut-off or the fr schedule.

All this makes me wonder if we should just bd on the schedule of pretty much every normal couple ttc and hope that LE/vegetarian diet, low CM through Zyrtec and exercise can carry us through to a dd. Thoughts, or reasoning why anyone might think this bd schedule sounds like a bad idea? From what I can read, it seems mysterious to all that the 1 bd ups the chance of a dd, I didn't see any conclusive reasoning for why this is the best choice. Thank you to everyone who is offering their two cents and/or information they have learned!

[fivebabies]

I agree to just dtd every other day. I truly believe what worked for me was the Crystal Light. Its a very quick way to lower your ph. I drank double strength CL through out the day for the 3 days leading up to O and then continued for 3 days after. Give it a shot! GL!!

[atomic sagebrush]

The reasoning behind the one attempt is that lower sperm numbers communicate something to your body that then in turn sways pink. I have my thinking about why this is - possibly there is some communication between sperm that causes more X than Y to capacitate, perhaps something to do with the semen itself (raising pH??) and/or some advantage at the egg where it takes several sperm to penetrate the eggshell - maybe if there are fewer sperm it gives X an advantage over Y. We don't know. The stats have shown one attempt is better for pink than 3 attempts. The reason I advise pos OPK is NOT because that day itself sways. It's because it's the best odds of conception with swaying.

That having been said, if you can't get pg you have no chance at a DD and I think frequency BARELY sways. So please feel free to go ahead and do whatever pattern you feel is best.

Also, do know that the Zyrtec also lowers odds of conception significantly so you may want to drop that.

[atomic sagebrush]

I do not recommend drinking more than the 2-3 servings of Crystal Light approved by the FDA as safe during pregnancy.

On IG there are people drinking a ghastly amount of Crystal Light and still getting opposites. IT's no magic bullet, and so I believe it is best to stick with a safer intake.

[balt0038]

I do think about the increased pH with having multiple attempts as well. And, based on a lengthy conversation with my dh tonight, I think I may stick with your suggested one attempt at +opk after all, even with the Zyrtec. Dh is being very understanding about my strong desire for a dd, and he would like one too, but he has many misgivings (that I also share) about having 4 lo's.

In the end we agreed to continue ttc for this month and next, but I think it's fairest for him to continue a reasonable strict girl sway...while still allowing for the possibility of pregnancy of course, unlike my first two attempts where I over-did it and, like you said, was essentially on birth control with all my different pH-lowering strategies.

So here's my plan:
-long workouts through O
-skip breakfast
-vegetarian/fairly LE diet (eating granola, yogurt with aspartame, crystal lite, swiss cheese, rice crackers and rice cakes, eggs (mostly whites, some yolks), rice pasta or rice with parmesan and Mrs. Dash, strawberries, apples, iceberg lettuce salads and non-nutritious sweets as pretty much 100 percent of my diet).
-Zyrtec around O
-small amount of Sylk as lube (unless you feel this is very detrimental to conceive, but it seems to be a fairly common part of a girl attempt)
-one bd on night of +opk

Hopefully this sway will balance our strong desire for a dd with a viable chance of pregnancy (since I've cut out cranberry, sudafed, lime or vinegar douche and rephresh).

If we do not conceive by the end of next month I honestly can say I will have closure that we tried our best and it wasn't meant to be, and I would prefer this outcome over having a fourth ds (though that fourth ds would be loved to pieces if he comes to be, despite the disappointment of missing out on a dd experience).

Any suggestions or advice, of course, are very welcome and appreciated. I'm guessing O is six days away at most. Feeling nervous and hopeful.

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, if I had my way you would give it at least 3-4 more months, a month with Sylk/Zyrtec and one attempt, a month without Sylk/Zyrtec and one attempt, then a month without Sylk/Zyrtec and SMEP, then a month with SMEP and Preseed. But it's not my sway and so I am hoping for a pink BFP this month!!!

[balt0038]

What is SMEP?

[atomic sagebrush]

Sperm Meets Egg Plan

[balt0038]

Update: I got a bfp yesterday morning (8/6)!! Edd is 4/20/14. My hands were shaking for a solid hour after seeing the test. My sway went according to plan besides the long cardio session part, on which I failed abysmally. I ran once in my fertile period, then just gave up on it completely once it didn't happen for the next two days. Hoping so much that my sway was enough. Thanks everyone for all the help! I will update when I know the gender but it might be awhile...I want to be team green but dh wants to know. We considered compromising and finding out at my 32 week ultrasound. I'm trying hard to assume boy until proven otherwise and not to get my hopes up.

[BeadinMom]

Best of luck to you!!!!