Doubting the possibility of success

[atomic sagebrush]

It is really common to feel like that, to such an extent that I do think the diet has something to do with it. Feeling resigned to fate, I believe to be a pink-friendly mindset and it's very much where I was when I conceived my daughter.

do not worry about giving your body "mixed messages", if it were possible to undo the good of a sway diet in one day, we'd all just do diet one day before TTC. Remember, even our prehistoric ancestors were always coming across a mammoth or a beehive and having a bit more cals some days than others, but it's the overall level of nutrients for months at a time that sends a signal to your body. If you don't have enough nutrients for 6 weeks at a time, it makes no evolutionary sense to eat a bit more one day and conceive a boy because of that.

[atomic sagebrush]

And that makes it so much harder to stick to the sway, knowing that either way I'll get a boy. Only thing that is keeping me on it is the knowledge that when I hear boy for the 5th time, I'll know I at least tried and that this is just how it's supposed to be. No regrets.


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I felt like, if I did not sway, I would for sure get a boy, because that's my lifestyle and personality really. My feeling was, even if it only gets me to the flip of a coin, I'd take it. Much better than going in with 80% chance at another boy!

[atomic sagebrush]

Wow - I only BF for 6 months and was stupidly on the pill so I don't know what would have happened to me. That cake mix sounds great!!

Some may quibble, but if you are exclusively breastfeeding, there is NO reason to be on birth control that first 6 months. It is virtually impossible to get pregnant when EBF those first few months. (now I know a bunch of people are going to chime in with "buts" right now, but it's been studied and it's a fact.) Even if your cycle comes back sooner, it's not a fertile one usually

[LilithWiser1979]

I'll quibble because of the 3 women I know who conceived while EBF their less than 6-month-olds having not had a first pot-partum period. One of them is a lactation consultant, who said she wouldn't have believed it until it happened to her. I had a full-on period at 6 weeks pp while EBF. Some of us are just fertile.

I figure, if you eventually want another kid, and having them SO close together wouldn't bother you, go for it. But the worry was never worth the BCP vacation for me, and the morning after pill is expensive!

[carmella_marie]

I feel you! I swayed SO DARN HARD with DS 2 and he was still a boy! I feel like I'm just destined to create boys and if I sway really hard maybe it will get my odds up to 50/50. But I had a great sway last time--LE for 12 weeks and crazy FR plus Zyrtec, fiber, Vitex, rephresh, baby aspirin. However I was also super martha! We bd thru o and u went couch potato route. So I know there are things I can improve upon for this sway--more processed food, intense cardio, one attempt, alcohol, and maybe clomid this time. But I hear you, all this work and I still feel destined for a boy!

[atomic sagebrush]

There are always exceptions (altho I am skeptical about the EBF nature of some of these, as I've been told that many times as well and then the lady goes on to say, "well except for the bottle my husband gave him/her at night" or "except for a little rice cereal here and there") There's a strict definition of what EBF means and so let me clarify and say, meeting the definition of EBF it's very difficult to impossible for the majority of gals to get pg before 6 months postpartum. Should you be careful, of course, and no one should rest on my assurance that it can't possibly happen.

My doctor told me that if it's 6 weeks and your bleeding resumes, it's still considered lochia. It is not uncommon for lochia to stop for a while and then start back up again. It happened to me with a couple of mine. With my first two sons I bled off and on till 8 weeks and then with my third, I stopped bleeding for the better part of a month and then lost a huge chunk of tissue and the bleeding resumed again (sorry for TMI!). It's not true AF and there was probably not an ovulation, thus I stand by what I say, the data shows that even if there is AF, and beyond that even if there was an egg released, pregnancy is just not gonna happen for the majority of women if they are EBF.

The vast majority of women are being given birth control postpartum that they do not need on the basis of a circumstance that happens very rarely. BCP has been shown to undermine breastfeeding for some people. Steph has just been thru the wringer with the BCP and ~my opinion~ is that people are being given medications with some pretty serious, even fatal side effects and it's not worth it.

http://kellymom.com/bf/normal/fertility/

[stephk]

What can I say. I was "persuaded" by midwives that you are super fertile when BF so it's best to be on the pill. Yes this is what they said. Yes I believed them as I was in a state, and they were professionals. Even though I own the taking charge of your fertility book and supposedly knew different. My husband hates me for the fact I went back on it but he was here too when those mudwives were here and blaming me isn't helping sorry but sometimes he is just an idiot, telling me that I should have consulted him. Well hello! You were sitting here!!! I had bad back issues from being pg so had to heal but he doesn't get it.

Sorry I've been on a night out, I have stuff going on, not in a great state of mind. All I'm saying is even supposedly intelligent people get persuaded that this is the right thing to do when they are hormonal.

[WantingPink]

You're probably right. The thing is that I stuck really well to LE last time, with a couple of cheats at AF, but my diet consisted of healthy veggies and wholegrain naturally low fat foods. With hindsight I think I was eating too healthily really. Still getting quite a lot of nutrients. So I'm pretty determined this time to eat more rubbish! I've never eaten so much processed food!

I went from a diet of meat, fruits, vegetables, whole grains, etc. to a diet of processed junk from a box. Other people might not see anything wrong with it but in my book almost everything I ate was not naturally nutritious. I had to eat less of these foods to keep from gaining weight. So I didn't eat a lot but over the coarse of a year I did gain about 15 lbs. I just can't loose weight eating refined carbs and foods from a can/box. I also drank way more alcohol and I drank what I like which is red wine and margaritas (salted rim). I am not going to lie, I didn't feel great and I got sick more than I usually do but it has seemed to work so I have no regrets!! The key for me was eating foods I liked to eat to keep from burning out. If I was really wanting something or craving something I would eat the crappy version of it or just a very small portion. Hope you get your girl this time!!